Canelo vs. Mayweather

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Canelo vs. Mayweather
Tweet Topic Started: Sep 14 2013, 02:25 AM (1,665 Views)
Buuberries	Sep 17 2013, 12:54 PM Post #31
No Posts: 7,150 Group: Members Member #8,753 Joined: December 30, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime The Passion of Christ What Browser do you use? Christianity Favourite Manga The Bible	It goes back and forth. Mayweather was ducking, then eventually agreed to it if Pacquiao undergoes a different drug testing thing (can't remember what it's called). Pacquiao's side said some s* about how he's superstitious and that he feels weaker when he loses blood, but then agreed to it if he knew when the dates of the drug-tests would be. Mayweather and the testing commitee thing said it's better if it's random because it's easier to mask any enhancers if you know when you'll be tested. Think they almost agreed to it but then Pacquiao's loss against Bradley and Marquez put him more out of favour with Mayweather and Idk I guess Mayweather didn't think he'd be up for it after that because MW beat Manuel pretty easily. That's a stupid point, though, because MW fought both Hatton and De La Hoya, and beat them both. Pacquiao took them down way faster than he did, but it'd be dumb to conclude that Pacquaio's the better fighter because of that. Edited by Buuberries**, Sep 17 2013, 12:54 PM.
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daman	Sep 17 2013, 01:00 PM Post #32
I am guilty sorry everyone. RIP Emile Griffith. Jeremy Kyle is a prick. go make sumin of urself Posts: 523 Group: Duplicate Member #9,568 Joined: June 2, 2013 Favourite Anime Gintama, Space Brothers, You and Me, One Piece Favourite Manga RRR, All Rounder Meguru, No.6	I read about the drug testing thing. That was stupid, Mayweather knew that he didn't like to give blood because one time before they lost Pacman's (lol pacman how is that a legit nickname) blood and then took it again and he felt weak for his fight so now he doesn't like giving blood. That's why he'd be happier if he knew when the tests were (like I guess you might know since you know about him saying he feels weaker after a blood test). So basically doesn't look back and forth; looks like Mayweather was ducking for years, then eventually had to take the fight to make himself look good but made sure he freaked out/maybe even scared off Pacman with the blood test thing, but then after a couple bad results Pacman wasn't too keen any more.
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+ Pelador	Sep 17 2013, 01:00 PM Post #33
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Pacquaio didn't school Cotto like Mayweather did though. This is obviously just my opinion and anything can happen in boxing but I don't see Pacquaio at the same level as Mayweather. I think he'd have exactly the same problems as Alverez and Cotto did. He's just not quite at that class. In my opinion anyway.
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Buuberries	Sep 17 2013, 01:11 PM Post #34
No Posts: 7,150 Group: Members Member #8,753 Joined: December 30, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime The Passion of Christ What Browser do you use? Christianity Favourite Manga The Bible	Nah I agree with you, Pelador -- mostly. Mayweather's by far the better boxer, but all the times he's gotten into a bit of a pickle it was because his opponent was in his face -- I think Pacquiao would've been able to give him some trouble a good number of times. Anyway, they were both at one point considered the best of their era so they should've made the fight happen. If it happens now it won't really be that good: Mayweather's style of fighting is far more skilful which doesn't really go with time if you keep training. Pacquaio's relies more on his physical prowess, and let's face it: time takes that s* away from us with old age. I think he's almost 35 now. Edited by Buuberries**, Sep 17 2013, 01:19 PM.
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Alex D. Boss	Sep 17 2013, 04:34 PM Post #35
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	Pacman would be a tough opponent for Floyd , (even though I think Floyd would have the edge ) , but he losed 2 fights which screwed his statistics. The boxers these days are more well-trained and getting better training methods than boxers from 90's and earlier.



Buuberries	Sep 17 2013, 04:39 PM Post #36
No Posts: 7,150 Group: Members Member #8,753 Joined: December 30, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime The Passion of Christ What Browser do you use? Christianity Favourite Manga The Bible	hmm good point. didnt consider the advancement of sports science in general
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+ Pelador	Sep 17 2013, 04:41 PM Post #37
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Plus the rules are very different and they use different gloves. Refereeing is a lot better now too. I've watched some old fights. Joe Louis, Marciano, Ray Robinson. I wasn't that impressed. They looked kind of average to me. Ali is the only one who really stands out for me. The only person in boxing history who I think would have any chance against Mayweather would be Ray Leonard. That could be a great fight. I think he would provide more of a challenge than Alverez did.
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Buuberries	Sep 17 2013, 04:44 PM Post #38
No Posts: 7,150 Group: Members Member #8,753 Joined: December 30, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime The Passion of Christ What Browser do you use? Christianity Favourite Manga The Bible	what do you think about pernel whitaker? defensive in a different way and with a bit more offence. doesnt look like he's much of a hard puncher, though... just overwhelms people with combinations and flurries. and yeah I think ray leonard would put up a better fight against mayweather than pacquaio would. Edited by Buuberries, Sep 17 2013, 04:44 PM.
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+ Pelador	Sep 17 2013, 04:46 PM Post #39
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	I don't know anything about pernel whitaker but I have heard of him.
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Buuberries	Sep 18 2013, 03:22 AM Post #40
No Posts: 7,150 Group: Members Member #8,753 Joined: December 30, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime The Passion of Christ What Browser do you use? Christianity Favourite Manga The Bible	o should look up videos. everyone's punching air
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+ miguelnuva	Sep 18 2013, 03:24 AM Post #41
Posts: 4,068 Group: Elite Member Member #8,291 Joined: September 16, 2012 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Sailor Moon	Bob Arum actually screwed up the last Mayweather Pacquio attempt as both had said yes to fight before the Bradley fight and then before the Marques fight. Also anyone who says Canelo wasn't in his prime is hating. Canelo has nearly 7 years of pro experience and over a decade when his amateur career is counted as well. De Le Hoya and Hatton as well as Marquez were also in their prime as well and Mosely had just destroyed a wealterweight champion and another high ranked wealtherweight before fighting Meyweather.
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Buuberries	Sep 18 2013, 03:32 AM Post #42
No Posts: 7,150 Group: Members Member #8,753 Joined: December 30, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime The Passion of Christ What Browser do you use? Christianity Favourite Manga The Bible	lol he's 23. he still has at least a year or two before he reaches his prime physically. de la hoya was nowhere near in his prime when he fought pacquiao and mayweather. ricky hatton yeah prime mosley was already 39-40 when he fought both. definitely not in his prime.
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+ miguelnuva	Sep 18 2013, 10:52 AM Post #43
Posts: 4,068 Group: Elite Member Member #8,291 Joined: September 16, 2012 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Sailor Moon	Roland Deschain Sep 18 2013, 03:32 AM lol he's 23. he still has at least a year or two before he reaches his prime physically. de la hoya was nowhere near in his prime when he fought pacquiao and mayweather. ricky hatton yeah prime mosley was already 39-40 when he fought both. definitely not in his prime. If Canelo isn't in his prime then what about Tyson? Alos Money is 36 he's not a spring chicken either.
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+ Pelador	Sep 18 2013, 11:46 AM Post #44
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	I don't think Tyson was ever in his prime. He still had a bit of a way to go. I think the same for Alverez, he has a lot of experience but since he's still only 23, he can learn a lot more. He's gonna be an absolute beast over the next decade. Will probably go up in weight though. If Gennady Golovkin doesn't decide to also move up a weight division before then, I can see those two having a fight.
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Buuberries	Sep 18 2013, 12:43 PM Post #45
No Posts: 7,150 Group: Members Member #8,753 Joined: December 30, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime The Passion of Christ What Browser do you use? Christianity Favourite Manga The Bible	is there a general boxing thread?
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