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Seahawks overrated?
Tweet Topic Started: Sep 9 2013, 07:08 PM (3,126 Views)
Fulgore	Sep 9 2013, 07:08 PM Post #1
The Darkness Returns Posts: 3,163 Group: Member Member #5,205 Joined: September 2, 2010	Looks like Russel Wilsons hit a sophomore slump. He barely managed to beat the Carolina Panthers..which have arguably one of the worst secondaries in the league. Will their game vs the Niners reveal them to the posers that they are?
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Pookie	Sep 15 2013, 01:10 PM Post #46
Pookie Powa! Posts: 18,039 Group: Princesa Pookie Member #1,340 Joined: April 21, 2006 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome and Firefox	The Giants are inconsistent not because Eli Manning, but because we have a number of players going in and out every season. We are also in a tough division. Yes, the same happens with Tom Brady, but his division has been weak for years now. Tom Brady is legendary of course, but I'm just putting it into perspective. Eli Manning is not the best, but he is certainly deserving of respect by now. I hope today the Giants win so that he has more to add to his resume.



+ Rebel X	Sep 16 2013, 12:55 AM Post #47
Posts: 11,612 Group: Legend Member #88 Joined: January 16, 2005	Gotta love it when the niner fan makes a Seahawks Hater thread lol. Not a surprise



Master Gohan	Sep 16 2013, 01:15 AM Post #48
Posts: 2,178 Group: New York Yankee Member #9,780 Joined: July 21, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime KIll la Kill, No Game No Life, Code Geass, Gosick, Log Horizon, Steins;Gate	Made me laugh ^. Won't be able to catch the 49whiners/seachickens game (jokes) Very dissapointed in this NFL season so far. My giants continue to embaress themselves. One shining light is that they are only 1 game back despite being 0-2



tOMMY pICKLES	Sep 16 2013, 02:30 AM Post #49
Yare Yare Daze Posts: 3,780 Group: Humanoid Typhoon Member #8,557 Joined: November 13, 2012 Gender Other Country Canada Favourite Anime Cowbow Bebop. Trigun. Samurai Champloo. JJBA. FMA:B. What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk, JJBA	seahawks defence is all over san fran. uhohhhhhhh 49ers



Pookie	Sep 16 2013, 03:01 AM Post #50
Pookie Powa! Posts: 18,039 Group: Princesa Pookie Member #1,340 Joined: April 21, 2006 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome and Firefox	It looks like the Seahawks are taking it to the 49ers. It's a good game so far. Mr. Gohan Sep 16 2013, 01:15 AM Made me laugh ^. Won't be able to catch the 49whiners/seachickens game (jokes) Very dissapointed in this NFL season so far. My giants continue to embaress themselves. One shining light is that they are only 1 game back despite being 0-2 I blame the offensive coordinator and the coaching staff for 98% of our problems. This is all. Edited by Pookie, Sep 16 2013, 04:28 PM.



Pookie	Sep 16 2013, 04:27 PM Post #51
Pookie Powa! Posts: 18,039 Group: Princesa Pookie Member #1,340 Joined: April 21, 2006 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome and Firefox	[delete this double post plz] Edited by Pookie, Sep 16 2013, 04:27 PM.



+ Rebel X	Sep 16 2013, 05:48 PM Post #52
Posts: 11,612 Group: Legend Member #88 Joined: January 16, 2005	and pookie to clarify, the seahawks and ravens have the loudest stadiums in the league. Whenever someone says the 12th man. they always mean the crowd of fans in the stadium. Saints have a good 12th man aswell. Anyways. Closing this topic. Clearly Seahawks are NOT overrated, making such a statement this early is silly. NFC West has easily become the most competitive division in the conference and maybe even in the league. They went from the worst division to the best in only 2-3 years of changes. Enjoy the Monday night game and get ready for Week 3



+ Rebel X	Oct 31 2013, 02:23 AM Post #53
Posts: 11,612 Group: Legend Member #88 Joined: January 16, 2005	Now that we're in week 8 and 9 it's more plausible to deliberate. Please keep the debate composed and levelheaded. If things get out of hand then I'll close this again and have mods issue warnings. On to the question... Are Seahawks overrated? I say let's figure out what Overrated really is and then decide if they are or aren't. :]



Pookie	Oct 31 2013, 02:35 AM Post #54
Pookie Powa! Posts: 18,039 Group: Princesa Pookie Member #1,340 Joined: April 21, 2006 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome and Firefox	No, the Seahawks are not overrated. They are a great team with a play making quarterback. While they have struggled in a couple of games, at the end of the day, a win is a win. They are 7-1 right now and have already proven themselves worthy against a 49ers team that is supposed to be one of the best in the NFL right now. Edited by Pookie, Oct 31 2013, 02:40 AM.



Master Gohan	Oct 31 2013, 02:38 AM Post #55
Posts: 2,178 Group: New York Yankee Member #9,780 Joined: July 21, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime KIll la Kill, No Game No Life, Code Geass, Gosick, Log Horizon, Steins;Gate	No need to get mods involved, if it looks like we are taking it over the top, we are just passionate about football. Answer: NO



Fulgore	Oct 31 2013, 04:09 AM Post #56
The Darkness Returns Posts: 3,163 Group: Member Member #5,205 Joined: September 2, 2010	Yes, they were being called superbowl favorites. I don't see them as superbowl favorites. They're overrated. YES.
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tOMMY pICKLES	Oct 31 2013, 04:19 AM Post #57
Yare Yare Daze Posts: 3,780 Group: Humanoid Typhoon Member #8,557 Joined: November 13, 2012 Gender Other Country Canada Favourite Anime Cowbow Bebop. Trigun. Samurai Champloo. JJBA. FMA:B. What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk, JJBA	when I look at the seahawks I see a team who rise to the occasion. teams like this often play worse against some of the average to weaker teams. they have everything you need for a superbowl run and they still don't have harvin out there. like the old saying goes. "they don't ask how, they ask how many" they are 7-1, they are a superbowl worthy team Overrated : NO



Fulgore	Oct 31 2013, 05:02 AM Post #58
The Darkness Returns Posts: 3,163 Group: Member Member #5,205 Joined: September 2, 2010	With an O-Line as weak as it comes, Rice out on injury. The Seahawks are not great. They're mediocre. The only way they make superbowl is if they secure homefield.
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~~Volt the Mean~~	Oct 31 2013, 06:29 AM Post #59
Posts: 909 Group: Suspended Member #8,024 Joined: July 28, 2012 Gender Male Country United States	@RebelX @Pookie @MrGohan Quote: I say let's figure out what Overrated really is and then decide if they are or aren't. :] IMO, overrated is when analysts, fans, and anyone and they're mamas call a team "unstoppable, SB bound, Best in the NFC, and ELITE. Now RebelX, when you hear people mention the Seahwaks with those words you'd expect a team that just blows out teams left and right, and not only beat but destroy/BULLDOZE teams that they SHOULD beat, that is what I'm discussing not wins, the Falcons last year won 13 games and were overrated due to their defense, the same goes for the Packers they win a lot of games but have overrated defenses. The Seahawks just aren't beating teams down, in the offensive side or defensive, offensively they're just lackluster, they are missing both T's but that shouldn't be a a problem for the most hyped up glorified scrambler in recent memory right? I doubt those T's would've even made a difference, Chris Long and Quinn are no joke. RW, is NOT a pocket passer, usually the guy just feeds off play action and broken plays which become ineffective if he's contained like against the Rams, and the Texans (in the first half before Cushing got injured for the entire second half) Pretty much what I'm stating is that if you put a fast LB or CB to contain RW, then you're forcing RW to beat thru his passing which renders him one dimensional. @Pookie Quote: While they have struggled in a couple of games It isn't "a couple of games" Pretty much every game exept the Jags game their offense has been truly a let down, along with their defense. The Texans tore them up, before Shaub went full POTATO. Colts tore the Seahawks secondary a new one. When the Seahawks face a good QB and a nice passing attack, the Seahwaks secondary just falls apart cuz they are built to be a man 2 man secondary the good passing teams have figured out(exposed) a way to beat that and be successful. Quote: I thought the Seahawks defeating the 49ers a couple of weeks ago would have put that notion to bed. Lol, that was 2 months and 6 games ago Pookie... The Niners have gone back to their roots, and with only 1 solid WR, and a flurry of injuries have won 5 straight. @WTVR Quote: when I look at the seahawks I see a team who rise to the occasion. teams like this often play worse against some of the average to weaker teams. Its funny how towards the begging of the season they are viewed as unstoppable, and deadly to now just a team that "raises to the occasion" lol and that elite team that you guys made them out to be should not BARELY beat bad opponent they should destroy bad opponents, simple as that, in those regards the seahawks are overrated. are they a good team? Yes. But elite?, or the best in the NFC?, or even dominating? Hell naw! Right now the Saints are the best in the NFC. The Seahwaks almost lost to teams with a backup QB TWICE, the Titans and the Rams. The Niners played those same teams and even healthier WITH their starting QB's and all, and BULLDOZED those teams. Whose next? @Hurry My Curry Quote: What....The Hawks have a top 5 total defense still, dunno how they got exposed. Against good passing teams like the Texans and Colts most notably, The Texans were tearing the Seattle's defense apart, and the Colts TORE them apart, through all 4 quarters Quote: Kellen Clemons passed for 150 yards dude, I don't know how that is ripping on the seahawks secondary. Then what does that say about RW, he only threw for 138, So is the Rams secondary better than Seattles? lol, does that maKe a backup QB like Kellen Clemons better than RW? The Rams O-lines is average except for Jake Long... The fact that Seattle gave up those passing yards was a let down for the so called "legion of boom" LOL Quote: TY Hilton had his best game of the season against the Hawks, every other game he hasn't done that well. Match ups my friend, Ty Hilton matched up beautifully against seattles secondary, Seattle plays mainly MAN 2 MAN/PRESS, which is good towards big tall receivers, not against fast shifty down field threats like Hilton, pretty simple... Quote: If the Hawks defense forced a fumble, they did their job. If they got a pick 6, they did their job. How is it lucky fhat they were able to create turnovers to win the game? Zuerlein missed a 50 yd fg, it's not like thats a gimme fg anyway. What I was basically stating was that the Seahwaks are 3 plays away from being a 4-4 team. Yea the seahawks are 7-1 but only by the skin of their teeth, Elite playoff teams will NOT let that happen, D. Williams should have slid and stay in bounds to run out the Clock. Matt Shaub went full potato, and threw the ball right into Shermans hands, that was ALL on Shaub, and Legatron Shouldn't have missed that FG he is known for making long FG's that's his thing. Quote: Also, this was basically Beast Mode's worst game, and his only bad game at that. Gore's first 3 games were all bad. In those 3 games the Niners didn't even bother running the ball. And when they finally remembered what took them to the NFCCG, and the SB, they went back to the run and are 6-2 since Quote: I find it unfair that you can say that the 49ers team isn't even fully together when neither is the Seahawks. Breno Giancomini, Russell Okung, and banged up Max Unger along with Percy Harvin are all missing. Three top o line men and a possible number one wide receiver when healthy. The 49ers are also not at 100%, yet they are 6-2. The Hawks are not at 100%, yet they are 7-1. Injuries happen, those 3 linemen didn't really play to RW advantages anyway, RW was never a pocket passer, last year and this year when they were healthy, Aldon tore up that O-line and sacked RW 3 times if I remember correctly. lol And as for Percy, I hope you know the injury he suffered was that he tore his hip muscle, that is where defensive players hit and damage the most, and those hips are what make Harvin so dangerous he's a shifty WR, and FWI earlier this week he re-injured it, not to much but just enough to know he won't be ready for at least two more weeks, and two weeks to be acclimated to the offense. Quote: A win is a win is a win is a win, whether it's the postseason regular season, preseason offseason lol. The number of wins don't determine whether you win a SB or not, look at your Ravens, and the Giants back in 2011, both wildcards and won the SB. Or the Falcons and Packers last year, tons of wins but... Well ya know. WRECKED ERRRBODY! Edited by Volt the Mean, Oct 31 2013, 06:35 AM.



+ Rebel X	Oct 31 2013, 06:55 AM Post #60
Posts: 11,612 Group: Legend Member #88 Joined: January 16, 2005	Okay so you are saying that they are over rated because they have all the hype and they're not living up to it. So I suppose a better question is that is every other team in the NFC Underrated? If by definition the Seahawks are SB bound but they are not beating teams down then is every other team an underdog from here on out? I don't think any other team is more suited to have a straight shot to the superbowl if they home field advantage in the NFC besides the Seahawks. The only other team I can think of is the Saints.



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