Goku w/Guru Unlock/No SSJ vs Freiza

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Goku w/Guru Unlock/No SSJ vs Freiza
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Mike XL	Sep 4 2013, 04:52 PM Post #1
Posts: 1,181 Group: Member Member #8,239 Joined: September 4, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Gundam Seed, Death Note, Bleach, Yu Yu Hakusho	How would Goku do after healed from the Ginyu battle vs Freiza had Guru been alive and unlocked his potential? Would it be enough to beat Freiza? He can't go SSJ in this battle. Edited by Mike XL, Sep 4 2013, 04:56 PM.



IllogicalGlory	Sep 4 2013, 04:53 PM Post #2
Furious Posts: 2,112 Group: Duplicate Member #8,639 Joined: December 2, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z, Bleach, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Bleach	He might be equal to his SSJ self, but that's as hig as I would put him.



Mike XL	Sep 4 2013, 04:56 PM Post #3
Posts: 1,181 Group: Member Member #8,239 Joined: September 4, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Gundam Seed, Death Note, Bleach, Yu Yu Hakusho	IllogicalGlory Sep 4 2013, 04:53 PM He might be equal to his SSJ self, but that's as hig as I would put him. Why so low? It, at the very least, made Krillens PL go from 1500 to 75000. That's a crazy jump. Edited by Mike XL, Sep 4 2013, 04:56 PM.



IllogicalGlory	Sep 4 2013, 05:11 PM Post #4
Furious Posts: 2,112 Group: Duplicate Member #8,639 Joined: December 2, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z, Bleach, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Bleach	That took time though, if Goku gets a few hours, who knows how strong he might become. Also I think Krillin is over 300k, but w/e.



AA500	Sep 4 2013, 05:37 PM Post #5
Posts: 2,079 Group: Member Member #9,363 Joined: April 11, 2013 Gender Not Specified	I think he could take 50% Freeza at the highest. I don't think the unlock would yield a 50x boost for Goku.



GokuBlaze	Sep 4 2013, 07:16 PM Post #6
Posts: 1,091 Group: Member Member #8,950 Joined: January 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga DBZ	He would probably be 2/3 as strong as SSJ self. He loses.
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Dankness Lava	Sep 4 2013, 08:52 PM Post #7
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	If he had this unlock, based on Krillin's jump in power, 100% Freeza should be a rival at minimum. Even if not, there's no way he would lose still.



AA500	Sep 4 2013, 08:58 PM Post #8
Posts: 2,079 Group: Member Member #9,363 Joined: April 11, 2013 Gender Not Specified	Bendanna Sep 4 2013, 08:52 PM If he had this unlock, based on Krillin's jump in power, 100% Freeza should be a rival at minimum. Even if not, there's no way he would lose still. Krillin's jump in power was just the unlock though, it was also from all the battles he fought on Namek



SSJ	Sep 4 2013, 09:27 PM Post #9
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Goku will beat 3rd form Freeza, but no other form.



IllogicalGlory	Sep 4 2013, 11:16 PM Post #10
Furious Posts: 2,112 Group: Duplicate Member #8,639 Joined: December 2, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z, Bleach, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Bleach	SuperSaiyan3 Sep 4 2013, 09:27 PM Goku will beat 3rd form Freeza, but no other form. He would beat 3rd form Freeza without the potential unlock, this is post tank Goku.



Sam	Sep 4 2013, 11:18 PM Post #11
It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash. Posts: 24,391 Group: Community Admin Member #415 Joined: April 21, 2005 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z/Super, Hellsing Ultimate, Naruto/Shippuden, Death Note, Hunter x Hunter, FMA:B What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball/Z/Super, Naruto/Shippuden, One Piece, Hellsing, Death Note	I agree with Kingsley's assessment. I don't think the unlock would give him his SSj strength, but, he could take down 50% Freeza. Can he use Kaiyoken?
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SSJ	Sep 4 2013, 11:34 PM Post #12
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	IllogicalGlory Sep 4 2013, 11:16 PM SuperSaiyan3 Sep 4 2013, 09:27 PM Goku will beat 3rd form Freeza, but no other form. He would beat 3rd form Freeza without the potential unlock, this is post tank Goku. Oh my bad, I thought it was beginning of Namek. Then I'd say at best he can beat a hypothetical 30% Freeza.



Kblo247	Sep 5 2013, 01:19 AM Post #13
Posts: 5,234 Group: Member Member #6,870 Joined: October 16, 2011	If he uses Kaioken like he did the whole Frieza fight, I don't see why he wouldn't be able to beat Frieza. I am assuming something like this. - starts at 3,000,000 post zenkai - Guru unlocks him and he gets to 10,000,000 initially I think he would break somewhere around 50,000,000 but it would take time. Krillin took time to go from 1500 to what he was flying to Bulma to over 10000 to 75K at Friezas fight start to IMO over 500k. Initially I think he starts at 10mil. Then I think he grows over time. Even at 10mil though, if you allow kaioken x10 he's at 100,000,000. That's a level where he can beat Frieza. A kaioken x20 kills Frieza



Sam	Sep 5 2013, 01:40 AM Post #14
It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash. Posts: 24,391 Group: Community Admin Member #415 Joined: April 21, 2005 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z/Super, Hellsing Ultimate, Naruto/Shippuden, Death Note, Hunter x Hunter, FMA:B What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball/Z/Super, Naruto/Shippuden, One Piece, Hellsing, Death Note	With Kaioken that makes it a bit murkier. I'm no master of numbers like you guys are but if he is using Kaioken x10 - x20 if he had to, he could most likely beat 50% Freeza. Past that, I am not sure. But I don't think he could take down 100% Freeza.
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Mike XL	Sep 5 2013, 04:31 AM Post #15
Posts: 1,181 Group: Member Member #8,239 Joined: September 4, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Gundam Seed, Death Note, Bleach, Yu Yu Hakusho	Necifix Sep 4 2013, 11:18 PM I agree with Kingsley's assessment. I don't think the unlock would give him his SSj strength, but, he could take down 50% Freeza. Can he use Kaiyoken? Yeah, he can use Kaioken.



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