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Krillin (EoZ) vs Tien (EoZ)
Topic Started: Sep 3 2013, 09:28 PM (3,745 Views)
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I've always thought Krillin to be stronger, but there isn't too much evidence.
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Sep 4 2013, 09:28 PM
but there isn't too much evidence.
You trollin'? :p

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not in the slightest, he was even relieved Goten and Trunks were stuck in the kids section, and that was after they had agreed not to go SSJ1


It's not like he would have a chance against Base Saiyans anyways.
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I gotta go with Tenshinhan. He was still constantly training. Even if his gains weren't huge, he at least maintained his battle power and honed his technique. Kuririn just slacked off and likely became rusty and lost some power. Tenshinhan has superior training as well IMO, is more tactical and the Kikoho is one of the most hax abilities in the Dragonball universe.

I give this one to him, though, I understand why people would say Kuririn could win. He was said to be the strongest human, but, keep in mind, after the Cell Games they completely lost contact with Tenshinhan so they have no idea (and neither do we as a result) if his training has led to significant gains or not. At the very least, he maintained his power and just honed his craft while Kuririn settled down and became a pacifist.
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Sep 4 2013, 10:32 PM
I gotta go with Tenshinhan. He was still constantly training. Even if his gains weren't huge, he at least maintained his battle power and honed his technique. Kuririn just slacked off and likely became rusty and lost some power. Tenshinhan has superior training as well IMO, is more tactical and the Kikoho is one of the most hax abilities in the Dragonball universe.

I give this one to him, though, I understand why people would say Kuririn could win. He was said to be the strongest human, but, keep in mind, after the Cell Games they completely lost contact with Tenshinhan so they have no idea (and neither do we as a result) if his training has led to significant gains or not. At the very least, he maintained his power and just honed his craft while Kuririn settled down and became a pacifist.
We have no idea but Toriyama did/does, so it doesn't really matter in the end. Not to mention, like I said, there was absolutely no reason for significant gains for irrelevant characters like him, and not a single hint toward him getting much stronger than at the Cell Games.
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Sep 4 2013, 07:08 PM
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Tiens was already stronger than Krillin in the CG Saga
then why did Yamcha call Krillin the strongest?
When was the last time Yamcha saw Tien (7 years ago).Tien has obviously grown in power tremendosly.
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Tiens was already stronger than Krillin in the CG Saga
then why did Yamcha call Krillin the strongest?
When was the last time Yamcha saw Tien (7 years ago).Tien has obviously grown in power tremendosly.
Conjecture.

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an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.


Not only do you have no idea of Ten's gains after Cell, but you haven't provided a single shred of solid evidence for why he'd make good gains, or why he'd end up stronger than Krillin when it's literally stated otherwise twice by the author.

Please, read this post: http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8819727&t=8429711

Then you'll understand why I think you're bringing up a bunch of excuses with no solid evidence behind your claims.
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Krillin has sex with an infinite stamina robot, that's better than any workout Chaozu can give Tien
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Sep 5 2013, 12:01 AM
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Sep 4 2013, 10:32 PM
I gotta go with Tenshinhan. He was still constantly training. Even if his gains weren't huge, he at least maintained his battle power and honed his technique. Kuririn just slacked off and likely became rusty and lost some power. Tenshinhan has superior training as well IMO, is more tactical and the Kikoho is one of the most hax abilities in the Dragonball universe.

I give this one to him, though, I understand why people would say Kuririn could win. He was said to be the strongest human, but, keep in mind, after the Cell Games they completely lost contact with Tenshinhan so they have no idea (and neither do we as a result) if his training has led to significant gains or not. At the very least, he maintained his power and just honed his craft while Kuririn settled down and became a pacifist.
We have no idea but Toriyama did/does, so it doesn't really matter in the end. Not to mention, like I said, there was absolutely no reason for significant gains for irrelevant characters like him, and not a single hint toward him getting much stronger than at the Cell Games.
This is true. But, why would they randomly mention Tenshinhan getting stronger or not if he has no effect on the plotline? It makes no sense. The same argument against him making gains can be made for him making gains. We just don't know. But, we do know Kuririn stopped training.
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We also know that Krillin was still stronger by the start of the new movie which was close to EoZ.

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Sep 4 2013, 10:27 PM
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not in the slightest, he was even relieved Goten and Trunks were stuck in the kids section, and that was after they had agreed not to go SSJ1

It's not like he would have a chance against Base Saiyans anyways.
uh.. that was kind of my point...

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Tiens was already stronger than Krillin in the CG Saga
then why did Yamcha call Krillin the strongest?
When was the last time Yamcha saw Tien (7 years ago).Tien has obviously grown in power tremendosly.
You are missing my point, what I'm asking is why are you saying Tenshinhan > Krillin during the Cell Games? Yamcha is literally telling you that the last time he saw Ten (during Cell Games, like you pointed out) he was weaker than Krillin.


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Sep 5 2013, 01:37 AM
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Sep 4 2013, 10:32 PM
I gotta go with Tenshinhan. He was still constantly training. Even if his gains weren't huge, he at least maintained his battle power and honed his technique. Kuririn just slacked off and likely became rusty and lost some power. Tenshinhan has superior training as well IMO, is more tactical and the Kikoho is one of the most hax abilities in the Dragonball universe.

I give this one to him, though, I understand why people would say Kuririn could win. He was said to be the strongest human, but, keep in mind, after the Cell Games they completely lost contact with Tenshinhan so they have no idea (and neither do we as a result) if his training has led to significant gains or not. At the very least, he maintained his power and just honed his craft while Kuririn settled down and became a pacifist.
We have no idea but Toriyama did/does, so it doesn't really matter in the end. Not to mention, like I said, there was absolutely no reason for significant gains for irrelevant characters like him, and not a single hint toward him getting much stronger than at the Cell Games.
This is true. But, why would they randomly mention Tenshinhan getting stronger or not if he has no effect on the plotline? It makes no sense. The same argument against him making gains can be made for him making gains. We just don't know. But, we do know Kuririn stopped training.
We also know Krillin ended up stronger despite having stopped training, which tips the scale heavily to the side of Tenshinhan not making unmentioned large gains.

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10. There's nothing that says how strong Tenshinhan was after the Cell Games. I say he was much stronger than Freeza. Maybe even as strong as No.18.

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That would be conjecture on your part, and a logical fallacy. Lack of evidence is not evidence. It's implausible for him to suddenly reach that level of power when nothing supports it.
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Just to add to it, they fought for their lives versus the Jrs. They had no reason to not use every bit of power they all had.

I also have to say the gap has to be crazy big, bigger than Gohan and Veggie at the Cell Games. Krillin is stronger 5 years post Buu when BoG is made, 5 years before EoZ and Uubs intro.

After Guru and the fight with Frieza there is the year Goku is away on Yardrat, 3 years training, 7 years Goku is dead, and 5 years post Buu. That's 16 years. Tien didnt catch up to the guy in 16 years no matter how he trained!!! Think about how much a gap Krillin has on Tien and then conversely Yamcha and Chaozu when you use time to put the stated fact he is the strongest human/earthling in perspective.

And logically it makes sense, allow them being trained by Kami saw Krillin make the biggest gains of all the human Z fighters in a similar timespan without his hidden powers drawn out or potential unlocked. He was creeping on Tien ever since the beginning of Z, and he just lapped him and never looked back after a while much like Goku and Vegeta

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From dragon ball to dragon ball z Tien has always & will always be stronger than Krillin, end of story.
"His strength is matched only by his control. The mark of a great warrior. It's going to be an immense honor to break him!" ~ Tien Shinhan
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Sep 5 2013, 06:03 AM
From dragon ball to dragon ball z Tien has always & will always be stronger than Krillin, end of story.
That's cute, but your evidence is nonexistent, which doesn't fly around here.
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