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| + Pyrus | Sep 3 2013, 06:33 AM Post #1 |
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Do you think humans genuinely care about each other? Or do we only care to benefit ourselves and ensure our own survival, as in if it no longer benefits us, we don't feel the need to care about someone else? |
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| + Emmeth | Sep 3 2013, 06:38 AM Post #2 |
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I think it depends on the individual. I think we have developed emotions through generations. Through proper etiquette and DNA. I don't think neanderthal gave two cents about eachother, they only wanted food. |
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| + Pyrus | Sep 3 2013, 06:42 AM Post #3 |
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Most of the time I think we're still like that. We mask it with concern about the well-being of someone else, but underneath those words I think it's, "I hope that person's alright because they [benefit me in some way]." I dunno, I'm entirely pessimistic of the human species. |
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Sep 3 2013, 06:52 AM Post #4 |
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Well its weird cuz recently, well last Friday one of my dads cousins was murdered, throughout the day he was very sad, and I didn't feel much for his lost relative tbh. I just went throughout my day as if it were the norm. In a weird way No, we do not, unless there is an emotional connection between the two people. Or as OFG stated, only if something can be gained from that person. |
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| Buuberries | Sep 3 2013, 07:33 AM Post #5 |
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Psychological egoism is the idea that ultimate goals are completely motivated by selfish desires; people only help others because it benefits their (the actor's) welfare. All desires are motivated by self-interest and nobody else's. Also a lot of people argue that we do good deeds because it makes us feel better. So two things wrong with this: saying that a person's desire is motivated by self-interest doesn't explain anything. "Your desires are motivated by your desires." The feeling good part is a byproduct of doing a good-deed. What makes an action motivated by self-interest/selfishness depends on one's ultimate goal. If the ultimate goal was to somehow increase your own welfare, then it's motivated by selfishness. If one's intentions was to benefit somebody else yet feels good about doing it, then it's not selfish because feeling good wasn't the goal. An analogy I remember coming across goes something like: a car needs petrol to travel from my house to the brothel, therefore the purpose of this journey is to burn fuel. tl;dr: "Do you think humans genuinely care about each other?" yes well, i think we're at least capable of it. although that doesnt necessarily mean we exercise that capability often. Edited by Buuberries, Sep 3 2013, 07:34 AM.
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| Tim | Sep 3 2013, 09:09 AM Post #6 |
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I like this answer. I'd say to an extent human nature relies on some cooperation between each other - when it comes down to it we are just a really complicated pack animal
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| * Mitas | Sep 3 2013, 10:58 AM Post #7 |
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I think it definitely depends on the person. Some people are more empathetic than others, whereas some people are very much driven by self. Like Roland said, the good feelings that come from caring about others and helping your fellow man are byproducts. People assume that a good deed has to be something that doesn't benefit yourself. I don't believe that. I think that you can be genuinely interested in a person's well-being and also allowed to feel happy about the fact that that's the sort of person you are. Why try to take away from a person's happiness by making them consider whether they actually care? It's unnecessary because in the vast majority of cases, they do care. People are just sceptical. So yeah, I do think that there are examples of both in our race. I've read too many stories of people intervening in situations they deemed unacceptable, where it's hard to imagine their thought process is "this will make me feel good about myself" rather than "that person is in danger, I need to help them". I guess the real subject here is your lost faith in humanity. Try out this tumblr: http://faithinhumanityr.tumblr.com/ . I haven't looked at it myself, but if it includes stories similar to the ones I was thinking of, then it should show you that there are definitely some genuinely good-hearted people in the world. |
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| Mike XL | Sep 3 2013, 08:33 PM Post #8 |
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Like others have said, this really comes down to the individual in question. |
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| + Steve | Sep 3 2013, 09:25 PM Post #9 |
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I think with most things we're all fairly selfish but when it comes to kids usually not. Although I suppose that's still kind of selfish. Work a crappy job so your kids have nice stuff and don't annoy you or other parents don't look down on you. I don't think all people deliberately do everything they do to suit themselves but I don't see how there can be any selfless good deed there's always something to gain and you always know you'll gain it, if not just on a subconscious level which fuels your decision making. We're a race that always wants more of everything. If volunteer work somehow, say by means of magic, didn't make people feel good for helping then I doubt people would do it as volunteers. If there's no small thing to gain from something people just won't but won't necessarily do things just for something. |
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| Buuberries | Sep 3 2013, 11:05 PM Post #10 |
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read what i posted about that
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| + Yusuke | Sep 4 2013, 01:53 AM Post #11 |
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I guess it goes back to what the late Thomas Hobbes said about human nartue. Base human instinct is that we look out for ourselves but we can change that through our own decisions. |
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