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Dude, Goku did the same thing against Janemba, same with Hirudegan.

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No, that wasn't what I meant.

Goku waited until the last second to go SSj3 against Fat Janemba and Hirudegan.

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Jesus god bro.

Not going to bring down my level for this argument anymore.

Yusuke Urameshi

Sep 2 2013, 02:22 AM

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In the movie they clearly show him as MSSj at first, then his hair clearly changes to the one bang maneuver ala:

Well regardless of the concept art, he was a MSSJ throughout his apperance and only SSJ2 burst was in the manga, not SSJ2.

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Goku was intended to be SSj in M4.

M4 isn't very relevant. FSSJ was used because there was no SSJ design.

Alex KloonBoss

Sep 2 2013, 10:52 AM

Yusuke Urameshi

Sep 2 2013, 02:22 AM

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In the movie they clearly show him as MSSj at first, then his hair clearly changes to the one bang maneuver ala:

Well regardless of the concept art, he was a MSSJ throughout his apperance and only SSJ2 burst was in the manga, not SSJ2.

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Goku was intended to be SSj in M4.

M4 isn't very relevant. FSSJ was used because there was no SSJ design.

FSSJ doesn't exist lol. Thats fan made.

Saying that there are animations errors doesn't get you anywhere in a debate.

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FSSJ is never stated to begin with , it was called SSJ , the design was SSJ , idea was SSJ all before the manga. Later AT turned Gokus hair blond in series as the original SSJ , thus saying to M4 SSJ designe a False SSj.

Goku's hair is based off on Gohan CG design , provided evidences shows that Goku is a SSj2 along with Gohan and thats a proven fact , whether you like it or not.

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1) M4 is a clear example of Toei foreshadowing something. M4 with SSJ Goku, M10 with SSj2 Goku, M12 with Goku and Vegeta fusion, etc.

2) He was, the designs showed he was based on Gohan's hair.

Yusuke Urameshi

Sep 2 2013, 01:00 AM

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I Say higher imo.After all almost every one is saying Goku was a SSJ2 when Gohan (SSJ2) and Goten (SSJ) used family KHH.Also LSSJ Broly power randomly sky rockets (Proven in M8) and even though Buu can regenerate he can lose stamina and ki (Something Broly will always have and keep on producing).The only way I see Buu winning is absorbing him and their are two things wrong with that (Fat Buu dosent like absorbing since he is half pure hearted and 2 Brolys ki migth be to much for him which migth cause his own demise).

When M10 was released, Goku hadn't gone SSJ2 in the manga or anime so he was SSJ for sure.

Yusuke Urameshi

Sep 2 2013, 04:41 PM

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FSSJ is never stated to begin with , it was called SSJ , the design was SSJ , idea was SSJ all before the manga. Later AT turned Gokus hair blond in series as the original SSJ , thus saying to M4 SSJ designe a False SSj.

Goku's hair is based off on Gohan CG design , provided evidences shows that Goku is a SSj2 along with Gohan and thats a proven fact , whether you like it or not.

Really? I just went over this debate with Cut_Ninja. I'm only going to go over this once so my warn level doesn't go up like it did the last time.

!) Why are you arguing about M4 Goku's design. Didn't I just agree that FSSJ is SSJ with the only difference being hair colour. I don't see why I need to debate this when I just said what you said.

2) How can Goku's hair design be based off CG Gohan? He was pretty much an MSSJ until that last very moment. It was only for that last very second when he had an SSj2 like apperance. That and the other reasons I just went over lead me to believe it was an animation error.

You can't say it's fact whether I "like it or not" because your opinion isn't fact my friend. There's evidence to support both sides so don't say something like that.