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Topic Started: Aug 23 2013, 02:00 PM (147,304 Views)
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Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.

I prefer to fight with items it's what I'm best at but 1 hit KO ones besides the normal baseball bat and Pokémon are pretty cheap.

And oh my god that one that blows air at you, so annoying.


I'm in the middle of trying to get a...modest(I think) Pichu then Pikachu so I can give it Light Ball and have it actually be useful.
Which shall be my electric Pokémon until I get a Raikou probably although Raikou will go in my battle box because I prefer not to use legendaries, much more satisfying winning without them.

Mega Sceptile is pretty beast didn't realize it became a Dragon...why the Lightning Rod ability though? That's kinda random.
I might go for a team of 5 Mega evolvers plus my Arcanine so nobody knows what's going to go Mega...
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but is that worth forgoing having a useful item for the majority of your team?

just realised earlier that i've unlocked the national dex. i want an umbreon on my team and with a lot of luck i managed to catch an eevee w/ wish which is an egg move i think, so that means i dont have to breed for it now.
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Uhhhh, I don't like Umbreon in competitive. Damn bulky. And of course they always run Moonlight/Wish and Protect. :(
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I could play competitive Melee fairly well but i'd much rather play the way it was intended to with the chaotic item matches over the Fox only FD matches.

Is it just me or is the Wii U version much harder than the 3DS version?
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Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.

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Dec 13 2014, 03:20 PM
but is that worth forgoing having a useful item for the majority of your team?

just realised earlier that i've unlocked the national dex. i want an umbreon on my team and with a lot of luck i managed to catch an eevee w/ wish which is an egg move i think, so that means i dont have to breed for it now.
No I mean 4 of them will have regulars and only one will go Mega but nobody will know which so they can't make plans.

Like if I have Kyogre, no Primal so people think ahahaha eletric time but then Mega Aggron or something comes along.
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Dec 13 2014, 03:57 PM
I could play competitive Melee fairly well but i'd much rather play the way it was intended to with the chaotic item matches over the Fox only FD matches.
I really don't understand it whenever you say things like that about ssbm.

It's not supposed to be played any one way -- that's why there are various options. If no-item matches on FD weren't the way it was supposed to be played, then they wouldn't have put those options into the game in the first place.

You can play things however you want. Just because you like it that way doesn't mean that it's the intended way, whatever that's supposed to mean.


@steve oh right. is there no team preview in this?
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Dec 13 2014, 08:44 PM
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Dec 13 2014, 03:57 PM
I could play competitive Melee fairly well but i'd much rather play the way it was intended to with the chaotic item matches over the Fox only FD matches.
I really don't understand it whenever you say things like that about ssbm.

It's not supposed to be played any one way -- that's why there are various options. If no-item matches on FD weren't the way it was supposed to be played, then they wouldn't have put those options into the game in the first place.

You can play things however you want. Just because you like it that way doesn't mean that it's the intended way, whatever that's supposed to mean.


@steve oh right. is there no team preview in this?
What I meant by intended is that Smash has always been a party game traditionally. It's always been viewed that way and played that way by the vast majority of the fanbase. Competitive Smash was just a way some people found out to play and it became poplar with a minority of the community. Not saying that's a bad thing but i'm just saying that's how it is.

Personally, Melee is my favorite game overall in the series for it's roster and it's aesthetic look though SSB4 kills it in the area of gameplay. Theirs no super complicated wavedashing that has to be mastered and it appeals to casual and hardcore alike. IMO, L-Cancelling was the only practical advanced technique from Melee.
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no, you're not getting it. I enjoyed playing on fd w/ no items years and years before I even had the internet and found out about competitive smash, and im sure im not the only one

"IMO, L-Cancelling was the only practical advanced technique from Melee."

lolllll okay
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Dec 13 2014, 09:50 PM
no, you're not getting it. I enjoyed playing on fd w/ no items years and years before I even had the internet and found out about competitive smash, and im sure im not the only one

"IMO, L-Cancelling was the only practical advanced technique from Melee."

lolllll okay
The majority of people don't play like that though, at least not like how it's done in the competitive scene. Smash wasn't even geared to be competitive yet some people want it to be like that (or should I say the ones who are butthurt post-Melee games not having Melee gameplay). If some are looking for a competitive series, then they would be more inclined to something like SF or Tekken. But like I said before, theirs nothing wrong with playing it that way. It's just those who think that Smash has to be played like that and Nintendo has to suit their demands are annoying.

Yeah, hence why I wrote IMO in the post.
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Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.

Yeah I find it kind of annoying too if I go on multiplayer I want to win, of course but I want to have a fun, silly experience not an annoying one where the opponent is some Japanese dude who's sunk 30+ hours in to perfecting combos with one character making him almost unbeatable.

When people take it so seriously it just kills the fun for me, when have Nintendo games been about such aggressive competition?

Besides when you want to kill your friends in Mario Kart because you keep kicking their a*** then they get blue shells all the damn time and everyone takes over you <_<
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I've been kicking a** in Advanced Warfare. Just put on some hype music, and go full throttle. Have been getting an average of 15-5 per game. That's actually decent considering I'm being offensive, and that's this game is so fast.

Just begun to play the second mission of MGS: GS :rofl:

I wonder why I haven't finished the game long ago....
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Dec 14 2014, 02:31 AM
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Dec 13 2014, 09:50 PM
no, you're not getting it. I enjoyed playing on fd w/ no items years and years before I even had the internet and found out about competitive smash, and im sure im not the only one

"IMO, L-Cancelling was the only practical advanced technique from Melee."

lolllll okay
The majority of people don't play like that though, at least not like how it's done in the competitive scene. Smash wasn't even geared to be competitive yet some people want it to be like that (or should I say the ones who are butthurt post-Melee games not having Melee gameplay). If some are looking for a competitive series, then they would be more inclined to something like SF or Tekken. But like I said before, theirs nothing wrong with playing it that way. It's just those who think that Smash has to be played like that and Nintendo has to suit their demands are annoying.

Yeah, hence why I wrote IMO in the post.
i've not seen anyone ever say that ssb should be played the way competitive players do.

"It's just those who think that Smash has to be played like that and Nintendo has to suit their demands are annoying."

i dont understand why you're saying that when /you're/ the one that always goes on about how ssbm was intended to be played a certain way, and not the way competitive players do. you are literally the only person i have ever met online or offline who, on more than one occasion, has said that ssb should or shouldn't be played a certain way.

and yeah the majority of players don't play like that because they CAN'T play like that. i can pull off half the moves competitive players do, and even then i can't consistently do half of what i can do, yet what i know gives me a massive advantage over friends who never got into the competitive metagame. well a funny misconception about opinions is that people think they can't be wrong. your opinion is based on misinformation or lack of knowledge. how can L-cancelling be the only practical move? something as simple as wavedashing is far more practical and efficient to get yourself into position and to follow up with any attack compared to walking and dashing. and don't give me that "that's not how the game was supposed to be intended to play" guess what? the developers knew about it and left it in. okay.

i'm actually wondering right now if you've ever watched competitive matches or even tried to do any of the moves used in the metagame, or maybe you're just sour because you got creamed by someone who does and can't get into it yourself?

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Yeah I find it kind of annoying too if I go on multiplayer I want to win, of course but I want to have a fun, silly experience not an annoying one where the opponent is some Japanese dude who's sunk 30+ hours in to perfecting combos with one character making him almost unbeatable.

When people take it so seriously it just kills the fun for me, when have Nintendo games been about such aggressive competition?

Besides when you want to kill your friends in Mario Kart because you keep kicking their a*** then they get blue shells all the damn time and everyone takes over you <_<

honestly, where is the logic in this? you're getting annoyed over a guy who's put in 30+ hours into something to get better at it. if you end up beating someone, it's 99% because you have more experience and practice at the game than they did. it's fun if you want to win, but you can't accept when other people want to do the same against you...?

if you don't want to spend time practicing a game, then by all means don't. just don't complain when someone who wanted to be able to thrash casual players took the time to learn specific things and rips you a new a*****. this applies to real life, or are you also the type of person who complains when someone beats you in a sport because they spent way more time conditioning their body and doing sport-specific training?
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Dec 14 2014, 01:59 PM
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Dec 13 2014, 09:50 PM
no, you're not getting it. I enjoyed playing on fd w/ no items years and years before I even had the internet and found out about competitive smash, and im sure im not the only one

"IMO, L-Cancelling was the only practical advanced technique from Melee."

lolllll okay
The majority of people don't play like that though, at least not like how it's done in the competitive scene. Smash wasn't even geared to be competitive yet some people want it to be like that (or should I say the ones who are butthurt post-Melee games not having Melee gameplay). If some are looking for a competitive series, then they would be more inclined to something like SF or Tekken. But like I said before, theirs nothing wrong with playing it that way. It's just those who think that Smash has to be played like that and Nintendo has to suit their demands are annoying.

Yeah, hence why I wrote IMO in the post.
i've not seen anyone ever say that ssb should be played the way competitive players do.

"It's just those who think that Smash has to be played like that and Nintendo has to suit their demands are annoying."

i dont understand why you're saying that when /you're/ the one that always goes on about how ssbm was intended to be played a certain way, and not the way competitive players do. you are literally the only person i have ever met online or offline who, on more than one occasion, has said that ssb should or shouldn't be played a certain way.

and yeah the majority of players don't play like that because they CAN'T play like that. i can pull off half the moves competitive players do, and even then i can't consistently do half of what i can do, yet what i know gives me a massive advantage over friends who never got into the competitive metagame. well a funny misconception about opinions is that people think they can't be wrong. your opinion is based on misinformation or lack of knowledge. how can L-cancelling be the only practical move? something as simple as wavedashing is far more practical and efficient to get yourself into position and to follow up with any attack compared to walking and dashing. and don't give me that "that's not how the game was supposed to be intended to play" guess what? the developers knew about it and left it in. okay.

i'm actually wondering right now if you've ever watched competitive matches or even tried to do any of the moves used in the metagame, or maybe you're just sour because you got creamed by someone who does and can't get into it yourself?

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Yeah I find it kind of annoying too if I go on multiplayer I want to win, of course but I want to have a fun, silly experience not an annoying one where the opponent is some Japanese dude who's sunk 30+ hours in to perfecting combos with one character making him almost unbeatable.

When people take it so seriously it just kills the fun for me, when have Nintendo games been about such aggressive competition?

Besides when you want to kill your friends in Mario Kart because you keep kicking their a*** then they get blue shells all the damn time and everyone takes over you <_<

honestly, where is the logic in this? you're getting annoyed over a guy who's put in 30+ hours into something to get better at it. if you end up beating someone, it's 99% because you have more experience and practice at the game than they did. it's fun if you want to win, but you can't accept when other people want to do the same against you...?

if you don't want to spend time practicing a game, then by all means don't. just don't complain when someone who wanted to be able to thrash casual players took the time to learn specific things and rips you a new a*****. this applies to real life, or are you also the type of person who complains when someone beats you in a sport because they spent way more time conditioning their body and doing sport-specific training?
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i dont understand why you're saying that when /you're/ the one that always goes on about how ssbm was intended to be played a certain way, and not the way competitive players do. you are literally the only person i have ever met online or offline who, on more than one occasion, has said that ssb should or shouldn't be played a certain way.


Did you not see what I had to say or are you just deliberately being ignorant now? I said that Smash was designed to appeal to a certain demographic which is not the competitive crowd contrary to what some might believe. That's not saying that it can't be played like that. It's like Pokemon was set to target a child demographic though a lot of people in their teens and early-20's are into it as well.

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and yeah the majority of players don't play like that because they CAN'T play like that. i can pull off half the moves competitive players do, and even then i can't consistently do half of what i can do, yet what i know gives me a massive advantage over friends who never got into the competitive metagame. well a funny misconception about opinions is that people think they can't be wrong. your opinion is based on misinformation or lack of knowledge. how can L-cancelling be the only practical move? something as simple as wavedashing is far more practical and efficient to get yourself into position and to follow up with any attack compared to walking and dashing. and don't give me that "that's not how the game was supposed to be intended to play" guess what? the developers knew about it and left it in. okay.

i'm actually wondering right now if you've ever watched competitive matches or even tried to do any of the moves used in the metagame, or maybe you're just sour because you got creamed by someone who does and can't get into it yourself?


1. I said L-Cancelling was the only practical move because it's easy for just about anyone playing Smash to understand the concept as opposed to wavedashing that requires hours and hours mashing the L button hoping you get it right.

2. I can play like that if I wanted to and yeah buddy i've seen competitive matches before. I've played Melee style before so don't make random baseless assumptions.

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if you don't want to spend time practicing a game, then by all means don't. just don't complain when someone who wanted to be able to thrash casual players took the time to learn specific things and rips you a new a*****. this applies to real life, or are you also the type of person who complains when someone beats you in a sport because they spent way more time conditioning their body and doing sport-specific training?


This might not be my business but who the hell are you to talk down to others because you feel what you have to say is the only right viewpoint? Honestly, you talk down to everyone that doesn't share your viewpoint on a certain thing and act as if your morally superior to them in your posts. I'm willing to bet Steve (and myself included) isn't even interested in Sports or anything like that so don't act like an a-hole and talk down to him like that.
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Did you not see what I had to say or are you just deliberately being ignorant now? I said that Smash was designed to appeal to a certain demographic which is not the competitive crowd contrary to what some might believe. That's not saying that it can't be played like that. It's like Pokemon was set to target a child demographic though a lot of people in their teens and early-20's are into it as well.
right, yet you keep on saying that it's "intended" to be played a certain way -- i.e., your way. aka youre being a hypocrite.

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1. I said L-Cancelling was the only practical move because it's easy for just about anyone playing Smash to understand the concept as opposed to wavedashing that requires hours and hours mashing the L button hoping you get it right.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/practical

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2. I can play like that if I wanted to and yeah buddy i've seen competitive matches before. I've played Melee style before so don't make random baseless assumptions.
calling bs since you complain about competitive smash so much.

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This might not be my business but who the hell are you to talk down to others because you feel what you have to say is the only right viewpoint? Honestly, you talk down to everyone that doesn't share your viewpoint on a certain thing and act as if your morally superior to them in your posts. I'm willing to bet Steve (and myself included) isn't even interested in Sports or anything like that so don't act like an a-hole and talk down to him like that.
because if there's one thing that annoys me it's stupidity and you guys keep making childish, illogical arguments.

my apologies if you think i'm looking down on you, but maybe if you quit behaving like a know-it-all even when someone's calling you out on it, then i wouldn't be tearing down the things you say that blatantly show you're talking out of your a***.

i said it applies to life. i used sports as an example. you guys are basically whining over people beating your a*** because they put in the effort to get better at something. are you going to complain in a class debate because the guy youre debating against decided to spend all week studying and you didn't? are you going to complain when you have a career down because someone else beat you to a promotion for putting in more effort in their work? same thing applies to this -- if you want to be good at something, then practice. you don't have to, but don't freaking complain about the other person just because theyre better than you.

i mean read what steve said:

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Yeah I find it kind of annoying too if I go on multiplayer I want to win
he wants to win

so does his opponent. is that too complex to understand or something? now just because his opponent happens to be a, quote, "Japanese dude who's sunk 30+ hours in to perfecting combos with one character", he's saying it's annoying and doesn't like it when people "take the game too seriously". yet he's out to win himself?????? where is the sense in that???? if steve had beaten someone because he was more experienced, that'd be fine for him, right? because he won? yet when it's someone else it's "annoying" and you call them out for putting in time to get better.

it's like you guys expect a game where you're straight up fighting against someone to not get competitive. if it's a competitive game, then you can expect to come up against people who'll beat you without trying. if you want to stay relevant, then you practice yourself. if you don't want to put in the time and effort, and in no way i'm saying you should so dont even try to twist my words, then there's no problem with that either. just dont go crying about it when you lose. it's the same with anything in life. someone who spends more time on something will usually be better especially if it's a competition that involves motor skills. muscle memory, being able to think ahead and predicting your opponent, and all that.

tl;dr maybe you guys should stop being sore losers.

and yes i'm a last-word master. catch me when i'm wrong and i'll admit i'm wrong -- i'll even say im wrong before anyone else notices i was wrong -- but keep on spewing out bs and i'll carry on calling out your bs.
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The weird thing is through all my years of playing Brawl, I've barely tripped at all, so I don't really get the commotion about it.

Then again I only started doing competitive-type stuff with Smash Bros. 3DS.

Speaking of that, the only item I usually allow is the Smash Ball to spice things up. Though I haven't been using it as much recently.

Basically Omega form stages, no items expect maybe Smash Ball, no time limit, 3 stock.
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