Super Saiyan Gogeta VS Hirudegarn (Second Form)

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Super Saiyan Gogeta VS Hirudegarn (Second Form)
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+ Havoc_Wreaker	Aug 18 2013, 06:16 AM Post #16
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	and well janemba is stronger then hiru - stated and i think its still plausible that gogeta gets a rival boost not from cause so and so get it he does but because same fusioness. method is different but still rivals and a bit more but point being u would have to think that rival boost is potara exclusive which i dont see happening .......



+ Pyrus	Aug 18 2013, 06:17 AM Post #17
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Who says there even is a rival boost in the traditional sense of "Base Goku + Base Vegeta * 100,000 * [rival boost]"? Wouldn't it make just as much sense to say being rivals is what pushed them to be as strong as they were, thus resulting in said merger being that strong (with the Potara)?
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+ Havoc_Wreaker	Aug 18 2013, 06:25 AM Post #18
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	sure it makes more sense i always went with the latter anyways, all im saying is that its plausible that with goku and vegeta there still pushing eachother with gogeta and making said merger as strong as it can be as well but ofc gogeta is weaker nontheless i dont really like putting numbers in dbz, things like formluas and multipliers are crap to me for the most part unless otherwise stated AT imo goes with the flow and people are as strong as they need to be in a lot of cases prime example is gotenks and vegito, u can determine how strong they were before and the fusion multipliers and ssj multipliers and what not, but end game there as strong as they need to be to fullfil the purposes for plot



+ Pyrus	Aug 18 2013, 06:35 AM Post #19
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Of course. I always go with PDT. It's the best way to go. I hate when people use the cop-out "Do you really think AT would make Gogeta weaker than Boo?". The fact is Toriyama didn't use Gogeta in the manga and left us with clues to come up with a good enough guess on where he'd stack up. Using what might have been Toriyama's initial idea for Gogeta's strength is BS. What we were told in the manga overrides what AT might've (going solely on logical assumption) had in mind before Toei jumped the gun.
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+ Havoc_Wreaker	Aug 18 2013, 06:38 AM Post #20
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	im glad we agree on something then js: stared at ur sig for 5 mins yesterday tilting my heads like in the sig .....it was fun.......



GokuBlaze	Aug 18 2013, 08:49 AM Post #21
Posts: 1,091 Group: Member Member #8,950 Joined: January 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga DBZ	Gogeta prolly loses. Unless. SSJ2 Goku & SSJ2 Vegeta fused. Then they would stomp Fusion dance
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+ Pyrus	Aug 18 2013, 09:00 AM Post #22
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	I don't think it would matter which form they were in when they fused. It didn't seem to matter for Gotenks.
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Vertical	Aug 18 2013, 09:50 AM Post #23
Posts: 2,542 Group: Member Member #8,475 Joined: October 27, 2012	Although I do not delve into the movies very often... I believe that... [Buu Arc] Manga Gogeta, no matter the form, would lose... badly. [Movie 12] SSJ Gogeta would win... easily.
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~~Takada San~~	Aug 19 2013, 07:35 PM Post #24
Posts: 82 Group: Banned Member #9,912 Joined: August 15, 2013	SSJ Gogeta > SSJ3 Gotenks



+ Pyrus	Aug 19 2013, 07:50 PM Post #25
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Takada San Aug 19 2013, 07:35 PM SSJ Gogeta > SSJ3 Gotenks Movie-wise, yes.
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SIAD	Aug 19 2013, 11:11 PM Post #26
Posts: 708 Group: Member Member #9,530 Joined: May 24, 2013	Definitely Gogeta (M12) = Gogeta (Boo). Heck, even Gogeta SSJ3, lose to Hiru (First Form).



BioBroly288	Aug 20 2013, 02:21 AM Post #27
Saiyan Of Legend Posts: 602 Group: Member Member #9,511 Joined: May 18, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ	ObsessiveFanGuy Aug 18 2013, 02:57 AM Super Saiyan 2 Gotenks would stomp Super Saiyan Gogeta, canonically speaking, of course; so Hirudegarn would stomp. No he wouldnt SSJ3 Gotenks is weak compared to Gogeta.Gogeta stomps since Janemba is as strong as Buuhan.



+ Pyrus	Aug 20 2013, 02:25 AM Post #28
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	BioBroly288 Aug 20 2013, 02:21 AM ObsessiveFanGuy Aug 18 2013, 02:57 AM Super Saiyan 2 Gotenks would stomp Super Saiyan Gogeta, canonically speaking, of course; so Hirudegarn would stomp. No he wouldnt SSJ3 Gotenks is weak compared to Gogeta.Gogeta stomps since Janemba is as strong as Buuhan. That's why I said "canonically-speaking."
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Augahn	Aug 20 2013, 03:53 AM Post #29
Astrian Posts: 499 Group: Duplicate Member #9,505 Joined: May 17, 2013 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z	Gotenks even at SSj3 loses badly to Gogeta due to his incredibly inferior fighting skills compared to that of his father.



+ Pyrus	Aug 20 2013, 04:02 AM Post #30
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	I'm not sure when fighting skills have mattered much.
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