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How strong was Future Gohan (with 2 arms)
Topic Started: Aug 11 2013, 11:34 AM (2,151 Views)
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How strong do you think he was?
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Somewhere above Mecha Freeza and below Future Trunks
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Stronger than Mecha Freeza, but weaker than the Future Androids.
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Yeah just above Mecha Freeza.
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I think he might have been even weaker than Mecha Freeza... but I wouldn't place him lower than 100% Final Freeza
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Aug 11 2013, 02:09 PM
I think he might have been even weaker than Mecha Freeza... but I wouldn't place him lower than 100% Final Freeza
No, i think he was on par with Future Trunks when he fought Mecha Freeza and King Cold
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Aug 11 2013, 02:26 PM
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Aug 11 2013, 02:09 PM
I think he might have been even weaker than Mecha Freeza... but I wouldn't place him lower than 100% Final Freeza
No, i think he was on par with Future Trunks when he fought Mecha Freeza and King Cold
Chapter: Trunks: the Story, P14.4, P15.1-2
Trunks: “…I think I’m strong enough to beat the Androids now. We don’t have to go study them in the past!”
Future Bulma: “You’re too naïve. It’s true that you’ve gotten astoundingly strong, but have you forgotten how Gohan was killed 3 years ago? I don’t think you’re that amazingly different than Gohan back then…”

This is compared to Gohan who trained for a year after losing one of his arms against the androids.
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Much weaker than when he had one arm. Probably weaker than 100% Freeza.
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One armed Trunks was like 1/2 of future android 17 or so. Trunks said that the future androids were more powerful than 19 and 20, but they were far below the present 18 and 17. So maybe he was around Android 19 or 20's level, when he had one arm. So I guess he was a little below them with two. Still way stronger than mecha Freeza.
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Trunks can own Mecha Freeza pretty handily. Gohan with one arm's around/a little weaker than that. Future 17 when he used less than half his strength on 2-armed Gohan should be solidly below that, and then Gohan with two arms should be well below that. So he's probably somewhere in Freeza's range, give or take some.
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Aug 11 2013, 07:58 PM
One armed Trunks was like 1/2 of future android 17 or so. Trunks said that the future androids were more powerful than 19 and 20, but they were far below the present 18 and 17. So maybe he was around Android 19 or 20's level, when he had one arm. So I guess he was a little below them with two. Still way stronger than mecha Freeza.
Trunks never had one arm. I'm assuming you meant Gohan. Still, I think you're overrating his power.
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Oops yes, I meant to type Gohan. I don't think it would be too surprising if he were close to Piccolo's power and Piccolo beat 20 handily. Vegeta was a pretty new SSJ when he beat 19. Really the only point I was trying to make is, Trunks was so far above mecha Freeza that there is plenty of room between the two for Gohan to be, both before and after his training. 19 and 20 also fall somewhere in that range.
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No.19 after absorbing Goku's energy was barely above Super Saiyan Trunks's debut power, though, and Vegeta thought he was absolute trash. No.20 after absorbing Piccolo's energy was enough for Piccolo to question whether they'd gotten too strong or the androids weren't as powerful as Trunks hyped them up to be, so there should be quite a difference between No.19 and No.20 after all the absorptions are taken into account.

The same Vegeta that thought No.19 was trash was only on par with what Trunks thought was his No.18, so if you gave a bit more power to that level and cut it in half, you'd roughly have the level of power from Future No.17 that Future Gohan felt confident in taking on.

The Super Saiyans have to fit into a snug group, Piccolo has to be somewhat below them but not too far off, and he has to be quite clearly superior to No.20, who should be fairly superior to No.19, who should barely be superior to Trunks from his debut, who should be about equal with a one-armed Gohan, who should be much stronger than when he had two arms.

With those kinds of gaps, I don't think any version of Future Gohan can be claimed to have such a chance against Piccolo or even No.20.
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Aug 11 2013, 10:43 PM
No.19 after absorbing Goku's energy was barely above Super Saiyan Trunks's debut power, though, and Vegeta thought he was absolute trash. No.20 after absorbing Piccolo's energy was enough for Piccolo to question whether they'd gotten too strong or the androids weren't as powerful as Trunks hyped them up to be, so there should be quite a difference between No.19 and No.20 after all the absorptions are taken into account.

The same Vegeta that thought No.19 was trash was only on par with what Trunks thought was his No.18, so if you gave a bit more power to that level and cut it in half, you'd roughly have the level of power from Future No.17 that Future Gohan felt confident in taking on.

The Super Saiyans have to fit into a snug group, Piccolo has to be somewhat below them but not too far off, and he has to be quite clearly superior to No.20, who should be fairly superior to No.19, who should barely be superior to Trunks from his debut, who should be about equal with a one-armed Gohan, who should be much stronger than when he had two arms.

With those kinds of gaps, I don't think any version of Future Gohan can be claimed to have such a chance against Piccolo or even No.20.
Well, let us see what those constraints really get us then.

Vegeta/Goku>Trunks>>>Mecha Freeza
Vegeta/Goku>Piccolo>19/20
Present 18/17>Future 18/17>19/20
Future 17 > one-armed Gohan > 1/2 Future 17 > two-armed Gohan

Why do you say that 19 was above Trunks, was this stated somewhere? If that is so then you are definitely right. But if the only reason is that Gero built him to be stronger than him that means little because Trunks was not exactly fighting hard against Frieza and King Cold so Gero did not know his strength.
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Chapter 343 (DBZ 149), P7.4
Vegeta: “I’ve realized by watching your faint movements up to now…That you guys don’t seem as terrible as the rumors made out.”


That implies No.19 was stronger, but not by the terrifying amount Trunks had described.
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