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Proof of Freeza>Cold
Topic Started: Aug 9 2013, 02:50 AM (2,730 Views)
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Anyways, I just think Cold should have more forms, I mean sure Cooler is not canon, but you can tell right off the bat he's family. With Cold, if we had never seen Frieza's second form, we would never know they were related. Cold's true form should look similar to Frieza's, it's all eyes saying..
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Traits are colors. The color difference between cooler, freeza, and cold, for instance, is a representation of a trait. much like the differences between your general makeup and your parents.

Your entire BODY SHAPE and ligaments are not different. You are a human with skin and hair and eyes etc. You won't magically have horns while your parents don't.

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Let me ask you one thing.

Is there a species in this world that can transform their entire being in strange ways like Freeza does?

No, there's not. You're not an expert on the biology of Freeza's race, anything said about inheritance of traits and whatnot, is meaningless. Freeza's race does not exist. It is not known how they reproduce, it is not known how (biologically) they transform. It is not known how traits/forms are inherited, it is not known whether Freeza has one or two parents and it is not known whether the look of each form is consistent among that race.

Maybe Cold's true form looks like Freeza's second. Maybe Cold has some suppression form that looks like Freeza's true form, maybe it varies from one person to another.

These are things you can't know and you telling us that we're stupid just because we are theorizing about the biology of an alien race (read: weird-ass biology that is a complete unknown) because you believe it contradicts the biology of creatures in our world, is lame.

Seriously, we're talking about alien biology here and there is no reason for it to be the same as it is in our own world. Hell, we have no clue how Freeza's biology works.
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At what point do you draw the line of fiction and reality? Why do you have double standards for things because that's real, yet you can't have that standard for something else? Hypocritical.

And no, I'm not directly referring to you, IllogicalGlory.
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Why do you have double standards for things because that's real, yet you can't have that standard for something else
Because Freeza is shown to have a biology that is radically different from anything we have on Earth?

We're talking about a being that can change from 5 feet tall to ten feet tall within a matter of seconds and can somehow survive in space, despite needing to breathe.
He can also completely vaporize his body at will and leave behind a radically different being.
We're talking about a universe where a magical dragon can come out from a set of orange balls, violating law of conservation of mass.
Oozaru transformations violate law of conservation of mass.
Arguably, every single ki attack violates law of conservation of energy.
In the DBZ universe, we have an alien who can literally split himself into two different beings via sheer willpower.
In the DBZ universe, a magician can use magic to literally give life to a ball of pink goo.
Fusion violates law of conservation of mass.
Cell's absorption violates law of conservation of mass.
There's no such thing as three-eyed people.

And the kicker.

Cell is proof that genetics work very weirdly in the DBZ universe.

Cell comes from the cells of Freeza, Cold, Goku and Piccolo. You may notice he looks exactly nothing like them. You will also notice that he is able to use their techniques, just because he was created from their cells.

Acquired knowledge is imprinted on genetics in the DBZ universe. There is your ultimate proof that DBZ genetics are nothing like real life genetics. Also, secondarily, Goten and Trunks seem to stronger than the previous generation because of how powerful their fathers were when they were conceived.
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I still find it weird Toriyama would draw ever other species similar, but Frieza's race are different. Nameks look that same, Humans, then we have Frieza. Oh and Cell is not proof, in this case they are mixing three different species as far as we know. We also don't know the process it took creating Cell.
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Back on the topic of who is the superior out of the two, it seems most have decided freiza is the stronger one, though why would king cold be still confident in beating trunks, he said it was the sword but shorly he couldn't have had all his faith in just that.
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He was a little weaker than 50% Mecha Freeza. Since he was trying to play tricks with Trunks by taking his sword.
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Have we all considered the possiblility that perhaps Cold didn't want to suppress his power through the use of forms? Also that perhaps Frieza's race can possibly look radically different from each other? It would probably explain why Cold doesn't say to Frieza something along the lines of "you're not really the strongest you know"
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Aug 11 2013, 11:50 PM
Have we all considered the possiblility that perhaps Cold didn't want to suppress his power through the use of forms? Also that perhaps Frieza's race can possibly look radically different from each other? It would probably explain why Cold doesn't say to Frieza something along the lines of "you're not really the strongest you know"
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It doesn't mean that much anyway, what's unintelligent is trying to suggest Cold has power greater than Frieza even though he keeps is mouth shut when Frieza says in front of him that "I am the strongest"
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even if Cold was in the 2nd form many zfighters have said Frieza is appoarching earth with another power that resembles his
Frieza states hes the strongest in the universe, Cold never says anything about it so regardless Frieza will always be stronger

Cyborg Frieza 10%: 160,000,000
King Cold 100%: 155,000,000
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Aug 13 2013, 07:49 AM
even if Cold was in the 2nd form many zfighters have said Frieza is appoarching earth with another power that resembles his
Frieza states hes the strongest in the universe, Cold never says anything about it so regardless Frieza will always be stronger

Cyborg Frieza 10%: 160,000,000
King Cold 100%: 155,000,000
cyborg Freiza 10% 160,000,000, what?

His full power's ment to be around that.
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