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Proof of Freeza>Cold
Topic Started: Aug 9 2013, 02:50 AM (2,733 Views)
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Thala na Gethu!

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Aug 9 2013, 05:18 AM
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Aug 9 2013, 05:09 AM
Does frieza ever say his father is the only one to beat him? or was that anime filler
He never said his father beat him. He said Goku was the only one aside from his parent(s) to ever get dust on him.
Goku managed to get dust on Frieza after using 2 Kamehameha balls as torpedo's, distracted Frieza, delivered a kick so hard that Frieza crash landed across few Namek's islands.

I guess Cold got dust on Frieza while the latter was sleeping.
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If that's what you want to believe.
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I belief Frieza > EoZ Base Goku.

That'll be a fact?

Assumptions.
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Aug 9 2013, 04:20 PM
I belief Frieza > EoZ Base Goku.

That'll be a fact?

Assumptions.
What are you getting at?

Chapter: 310 (DBZ 116), P2.2-3
Freeza: “I didn’t think you’d be this good…You’re the first person besides my parent(s) who’s got dust on me…This might be the first time in my life I’ve been so excited…”
Note: the word used here for parent (oya) could be either singular or plural. Which has nothing to do with strength, I just felt like pointing that out.
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Aug 9 2013, 06:25 AM
Cold and Freiza's mother can hurt 50% Frieza I believe is what the Anime said.
Does Freeza even have a mother? If he does, I imagined her to look something like this.
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Aug 9 2013, 08:50 PM
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Aug 9 2013, 06:25 AM
Cold and Freiza's mother can hurt 50% Frieza I believe is what the Anime said.
Does Freeza even have a mother? If he does, I imagined her to look something like this.
Freeza mentions his Parents
So I'd say yes.
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It's ambiguous whether he was speaking in plural or singular format.
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I can't really refute any of the evidence given.

But one question remain.

It's about transformations in general. The first appearance we see freeza was a 3rd form of suppression. The 2nd form was a 2nd form of suppression, the 3rd the 1st form of suppression. Freeza's final form is actually the "natural" form of the race. This is stated by freeza.

So why is cold in what appears to be freezas 2nd suppression form if he has no forms?

Freeza himself says he created the forms to suppress his power. So..why is his father in a suppressed form, and why does that somehow mean he has no forms...? that logically makes no sense.
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Sure give it to King Cold and not to go off topic but but for the record there is no way King Cold could beat Cooler. Don't care what the video game says, King Cold was destroyed easily by a ssj Trunks, while ssj Goku almost lost to cooler
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I don't think it means he has no forms, I think it just means that even if he transforms he'd be the weaker one.
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Aug 10 2013, 11:11 PM
I can't really refute any of the evidence given.

But one question remain.

It's about transformations in general. The first appearance we see freeza was a 3rd form of suppression. The 2nd form was a 2nd form of suppression, the 3rd the 1st form of suppression. Freeza's final form is actually the "natural" form of the race. This is stated by freeza.

So why is cold in what appears to be freezas 2nd suppression form if he has no forms?

Freeza himself says he created the forms to suppress his power. So..why is his father in a suppressed form, and why does that somehow mean he has no forms...? that logically makes no sense.
That was only Freeza's natural form. We don't have any idea what the rest of his race looked like.
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Until I read or hear a logical explanation as to why that is not Cold's second form, I'm calling f*ck up on Toriyama's part. It's stated Frieza's last form is his original forms, every other forms are his suppressed forms. So how can Cold not be in his suppressed form? If he was at full power that moment, he should've looked like Frieza's final form.

@KP, true but why would we assume they look any different? Why look like Frieza's second form?
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I think Cold's natural form would look like a pineapple. Come at me.
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Knowing how Dragon Ball is though, with the new generation always having more potential than the last, one tends to lean more to Frieza's side.
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Hey the assumption that Cold is in a form.

FREEZA CREATED his suppression forms, it's not a thing of his race, it's a thing he accomplished himself.
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