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| SuperSaiyan1993 | Jul 28 2013, 02:58 PM Post #1 |
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How is it that Piccolo > #20 + Vegeta's Ki Blast + Majority of Piccolo's Energy (+ technically Yamcha) Is it that Piccolo was heavily suppressed and thus #20 couldn't access his vast battle ki making it: Piccolo FP > #20 + Vegeta's Ki Blast + Suppressed Piccolo's Energy Or is it that the 19/20 model doesn't increase one's own battle power that much? It could go either way honestly but IMO it's more inclined toward the latter. Gotta admit though, total defense against ki attacks is still a huge pro |
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| + Pyrus | Jul 28 2013, 03:31 PM Post #2 |
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I'm beginning to think Gero's calculations are just off. |
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| + Kyouks | Jul 28 2013, 03:34 PM Post #3 |
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With #20 it isn't that bad really, it gets weird with #19 and the Kamehameha though. |
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| FamousBueller | Jul 28 2013, 05:03 PM Post #4 |
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how> 19 (post Kamehameha) > Ssj Goku > 19 that makes perfect sense now Ssj Vegeta (big bang attack) > 19 (post ssj vegetas energy) > Ssj Vegeta (drained) that's kinda confusing to me and the whole 20 thing is confusing |
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| + Pyrus | Jul 28 2013, 06:14 PM Post #5 |
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Oh, to answer your original question, Piccolo stated himself that he was suppressed, so the power No.20 took was meaningless. His suppressed power was below Base Vegeta. |
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| + Kyouks | Jul 28 2013, 06:19 PM Post #6 |
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It makes sense when you just look at it as a chain. It doesn't really make sense numerically unless you make 19 or the KHH far weaker than they seem. |
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| SuperSaiyan1993 | Jul 28 2013, 10:36 PM Post #7 |
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Ah, that makes perfect sense. Thanks |
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Jul 28 2013, 10:44 PM Post #8 |
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Another example of people trying to apply math and logic to a plot device. |
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| POOHEAD189 | Jul 28 2013, 11:01 PM Post #9 |
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We can't help it. LOGIC AND REASON GUIDE OUR LIVES IN THIS CHAOTIC STATE WE CALL LIFE |
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| + Pyrus | Jul 28 2013, 11:05 PM Post #10 |
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What's the plot device? |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Jul 28 2013, 11:36 PM Post #11 |
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If Vegeta's blast was concentrated, than it makes perfect sense. With concentrated blasts, it's not the ki amount that makes it strong, but the concentration of the ki that does. Gero himself can only absorb ki amount. Ki amount itself does not equate to battle power. Think of "battle power" less as ki amount and more as the "damage potential" from that ki. For example: Think of snow, and then think of the damage potential of snow being thrown at someone as the "power level". If you have a handful of snow and throw it at someone, it wouldn't do much damage. The "power level" is low. But take that exact same amount of snow and pack it into a ball (concentrating it). The potential for it to cause damage goes up. The tighter its packed, the higher chance for damage, but it's still the exact same amount of snow that it's always been. Vegeta could've had the same amount of ki in that blast that he would've had in a basic one, but increased the concentration. Gero himself can only absorb the ki amount used. Whether or not he can concentrate that ki and get the same damage rate as Vegeta depends on Gero's ability. We also have to consider that Piccolo was in a suppressed state. His ki didn't actually drop, but with a lower concentration or flow, it would take longer for Gero to absorb a lot of it. Gohan interrupting them no doubt saved Gero from getting a lot of ki as well. |
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| Mihawk | Jul 28 2013, 11:37 PM Post #12 |
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Weren't you the one trying to say Bills isn't a galaxy buster because of science? Same thing different perspective (even if you're going to try to differentiate them). |
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| IllogicalGlory | Jul 28 2013, 11:48 PM Post #13 |
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Does #19 ever surpass #20 (initial)? |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Jul 28 2013, 11:52 PM Post #14 |
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I think he would after he absorbed Goku's ki as well as the chunk he got from Vegeta when he grabbed him. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Jul 28 2013, 11:52 PM.
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| SSJ | Jul 29 2013, 12:33 AM Post #15 |
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No. 20 was worried about 19 getting greedy, hence why he wanted the rest of the Z fighter's energy. |
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