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SSJ 2 Zeta Sword Gohan vs Base Gogeta
Topic Started: Jul 28 2013, 03:25 AM (935 Views)
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Who will win?
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IllogicalGlory
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Gogeta roasts him. He should be far above SSJ3 Goku.
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SSJ
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Depends how strong you think Base Gotenks is.
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Either one is a viable option. There's literally no evidence for either side.
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SSJ 2 Goku: 80
SSJ 3 Goku: 400
Base Gotenks: 100
SSJ Gotenks: 500
Good Boo: 145
Grey Boo: 245
Fat Boo: 390
Base Gogeta: 200
SSJ 2 Post Zeta Gohan: 350


This is what I came up with.
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You just love setting up these topics don't ya SS2 :lol:

Personally I have Gogeta owning Gohan pretty badly.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

If SSj3 Gogeta must>~Bootenks, then there's no way in hell Gohan can win this one when such a point implies that Base Gogeta>Base Gotenks (Post)>SSJ Gotenks (Pre)>SSj2 Zeta Gohan.

Even going by my usual point where I believe in a good deal that Post-ROSAT Gotenks>Gogeta, I'm not sure if Gohan can still win this round, htough it would definitely be closer I'd say.
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Huh. I really am out of it today. I thought for some reason with the mindset being Goku compared only Super Saiyan Gohan to Fat Boo, not Super Saiyan 2 Gohan. Jeez...

Gogeta would completely rumplestomp Gohan, no questions asked.
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Someone prove how my numbers don't work, because in theory they should.
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Someone prove how my numbers don't work, because in theory they should.


You should go with statements about Post Gotenks > SSJ Gotenks (Pre) > Fat Boo > SSJ2 Gohan (Zeta) opinions on gaps and multipliers aren't really useful to be honest if they don't give you the result shown in statements.


Edited by Zenet, Jul 28 2013, 01:39 PM.
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Jul 28 2013, 01:18 PM
Someone prove how my numbers don't work, because in theory they should.


They don't work because you don't follow the manga, since it clearly implies base Gotenks after Rosat to be superior to his Ssj form pre Rosat: the fact that Piccolo didn't know Gotenks could have transformed after fusion pretty much sets this in stone:

base Gotenks post > Ssj Gotenks pre > Ssj3 Goku

Z-Sword Gohan is very strong but, according to Goku, he wouldn't be able to take down Fat Boo, while Ssj3 Goku is clearly stronger than the latter, so:

base Gotenks post > Ssj Gotenks pre > Ssj3 Goku > Fat Boo > Z-Sword Ssj2 Gohan

Then, Gogeta has to be, at least, on par with Gotenks post Rosat because of this quote, in reference to Super Boo:

Chapter: 506 (DBZ 312), P13.1
Context: still talking about how they're no match for Boo
Goku: "...But there is one way we can win!"
Vegeta: "You want to say Fusion, right? Well who cares about that?!"
Goku: "Huh? You know about it?"
Vegeta: "I saw it from the afterlife... You've got to be joking! You think I'd perform those ugly poses...?! Anyway, I thought I told you that I'm not going to merge with you a second time."


base Gogeta >(=) base Gotenks post > Ssj Gotenks pre > Ssj3 Goku > Fat Boo > Z-Sword Ssj2 Gohan

There's absolutely no way that any form of Gohan (with the obvious exception of the mighty Saikyou no Senshi) can touch base Gogeta.
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I havent even brought up Base Gotenks post though.

It technically doesnt make sense because the adults are only 2x stronger than the kids pre rosat.

And yea I am aware that Base Gotenks >> SSJ Gotenks Pre.
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Jul 28 2013, 02:28 PM
I havent even brought up Base Gotenks post though.

It technically doesnt make sense because the adults are only 2x stronger than the kids pre rosat.

And yea I am aware that Base Gotenks >> SSJ Gotenks Pre
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It still makes sense, since nothing states the gains of the boys have to be proportional to the gains of Gotenks.
Also, if you are aware that base Gotenks post > ssj Gotenks pre, you know you can't have base Gogeta below Ssj3 Goku; indeed, again, this quote tells you that Gogeta is on par or stronger than Gotenks post Rosat, you can't escape that:

Chapter: 506 (DBZ 312), P13.1
Context: still talking about how they're no match for Boo
Goku: "...But there is one way we can win!"
Vegeta: "You want to say Fusion, right? Well who cares about that?!"
Goku: "Huh? You know about it?"
Vegeta: "I saw it from the afterlife... You've got to be joking! You think I'd perform those ugly poses...?! Anyway, I thought I told you that I'm not going to merge with you a second time."


Actually, with your numbers, you are ignoring the manga and going only by your personal preferences.



Edited by Sjk8, Jul 28 2013, 03:39 PM.
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If Gogeta can beat Super Boo, no questions asked, he's has to be above Gotenks. Or at least equal to him, it's impossible for him to be twice as strong as pre-RoSaT Gotenks.
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SSjin 2 Gohan post z sword is weaker than SSjin 3 Goku, this we know for sure. SSjin Gotenks pre is stronger than SSjin 3 Goku, stated by Piccolo. base Gotenks (post) is implied to be stronger than SSjin Gotenks pre. Gogeta in equal forms is going to be stronger than Gotenks. Put that all together and Gohan is gonna get pooped on.
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