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Jul 27 2013, 12:12 AM
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Omega > Syn > Super 17 > Nova >= Isis > Golden Oozaru Bebi-Vegeta > Super 2 Bebi-Vegeta > Super Bebi-Vegeta > Bebi-Vegeta > Metal Rilldo > Sigma Force Rilldo > Ledgic > Rilldo > Buu-Han > Hirudegarn (hatched) > Buu-Tenks > Buff Buu > Super Janemba > Picco-Buu >=< Bebi (teen) >= Super Buu > Hirudegarn > Kid Buu > Skinny Buu > Fat Janemba > Fat Buu > Good Buu > Ultimate Perfect Cell > Hatchiyack > Lssj Broly > Bojack > Perfect Cell > Dabura > Semi-Perfect Cell > Cell (post nicki) >= 16 > 17 > 18 > Cell (post ginger) > 20 > 19 > Cooler (form 5) > Cyborg Frieza > King Cold > Frieza 100% > Frieza 75% > Frieza 50% > Turles (post fruit) > Frieza 25% > Frieza (form 4) > Cooler (form 4) > Frieza > Frieza > Frieza > Oozaru Vegeta > Ginyu > Jeice = Burter = Recoome > Zarbon (monster) > Vegeta (post goku) > Zarbon > Dodoria > Cui >= Vegeta > Nappa > Raditz >= Saibamen
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Jul 27 2013, 12:54 AM
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How is Redjic stronger than Rild? Rild faced a much stronger Goku than Redjic did.
What is "post nicki" for Cell? I know it's after he absorbs humans, but why call it that?
Why is Cold stronger than 100% Freeza?
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Jul 27 2013, 01:27 AM
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How is Redjic stronger than Rild? Rild faced a much stronger Goku than Redjic did.
What is "post nicki" for Cell? I know it's after he absorbs humans, but why call it that?
Why is Cold stronger than 100% Freeza? Cell (post nicki) is post nicki-town that's the second town he went to
If Cyborg Frieza is stronger than Frieza 100% and King Cold is almost equal to Cyborg Frieza wouldn't he be stronger than Frieza 100%? and how is Rildo stronger than Ledgic?
I don't see how Goku got stronger he did no training or received zenkais but I do remember this
Ledgic > Goku, goku had to go ssj to defeat him
Goku > Rilldo, goku had no problems with Rilldo
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Jul 27 2013, 01:36 AM
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If Cyborg Frieza is stronger than Frieza 100% and King Cold is almost equal to Cyborg Frieza wouldn't he be stronger than Frieza 100%? and how is Rildo stronger than Ledgic?
Cold isn't almost equal to Mecha Freeza. It was stated that Freeza was suppressed, and that's the level of power Cold was compared to.
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and how is Rildo stronger than Ledgic?
I don't see how Goku got stronger he did no training or received zenkais but I do remember this
Ledgic > Goku, goku had to go ssj to defeat him
Goku > Rilldo, goku had no problems with Rilldo
Statements from the Mega Cannon Sigma and feats from Goku.
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Finally, onto GT.
According to the Perfect Files Volume 1, GT began five years after Z ended. Throughout those five years, Goku and Oob were training intensely in a special room on the Lookout. Shown clearly by their fight in the first episode, the two were basically equals, at least when Goku remained in his regular form. Since they had been training together for five years straight in a specialized room, it is safe to assume they at least reached the power of Kid Boo.
Base Goku = Oob (BOGT) = Kid Boo > Base Goku = Oob (EOZ) > Good Boo
In a brief series of unfortunate events, Goku was turned into a kid. He was not stated to have lost any power from this in the show itself, and the Perfect Files Volume 1 note: "His body’s strength doesn’t seem to be any different than when he was an adult, but apparently his small body has diminished his stamina."
Goku then dove into a space adventure with Pan and Trunks to collect the Ultimate Dragon Balls, for if they didn't do so within a year, the Earth would explode. Along the way, Goku encountered a being called Redjic. Redjic was superior to Goku's normal power, but was inferior to his Super Saiyan power.
Super Saiyan Goku (BOGT) > Redjic > Base Goku (BOGT) = Oob (BOGT) = Kid Boo > Base Goku (EOZ) = Oob (EOZ) > Good Boo
After battling Redjic, eventually the group traveled to Planet M2, where they met up with the Mega Cannon Sigma and General Rild. The individual members of Mega Cannon Sigma were confident in defeating Goku, having the data recorded from his battle with Redjic, including when he used Super Saiyan. During their fight with him, Goku also showed them praise and said it had been a long time since he had met anybody like them. However, even combined, they were no match for Base Goku. This effectively showed that the Saiyan had grown a lot power-wise from his battles in space (remember: this is Toei).
Base Goku (Planet M2) > Super Mega Cannon Sigma > Neji > Veise > Nutt > Super Saiyan Goku (Planet Imegga) > Redjic > Base Goku (Planet Imegga) = Oob (BOGT) = Kid Boo > Base Goku (EOZ) = Oob (EOZ) > Good Boo
After easily defeating the Mega Cannon Sigma, Goku battled General Rild, who he implied was far more impressive than the machines. Base Goku was barely ahead of General Rild, who he stated was "even stronger" than some form of Majin Boo. Rild underwent two power-ups after Goku turned Super Saiyan, and was still at a noticeable disadvantage against the Saiyan; he was inevitably defeated. It is important to note that after Goku transformed, Rild stated that he had not been using "even half" of his power beforehand. This seemingly minor statement implies that the Super Saiyan multiplier was no longer 50-fold or 10-fold or anything large, but in fact was somewhere closer to 2- or 3-fold due to how it was said. If the multiplier was still, say, 50-fold at the time, Rild's observation would be an immense understatement. If the multiplier was truly still 50-fold, for instance, then a better statement would have been: "You weren't using even a tiny fraction of your power before." This is also shown during the filler battles inside Super Boo, as Base Goku goes from being at a slight disadvantage against Fake Gohan to being at a slight advantage after turning Super Saiyan. The multiplier was clearly not anything big in the minds of the Toei staff.
Super Saiyan Goku (Planet M2) > Meta-Rild > Hyper Metal Rild > Base Goku (Planet M2) > General Rild > Majin Boo > Super Mega Cannon Sigma > Neji > Veise > Nutt > Super Saiyan Goku (Planet Imegga) > Redjic > Base Goku (Planet Imegga) = Oob (BOGT) = Kid Boo > Base Goku (EOZ) = Oob (EOZ) > Good Boo
If you think the above chain is ridiculous due to Goku's power gains, just remember that this is Toei, and the same concept of him receiving unbelievably large amounts of power from seemingly every fight he is in happens in Dragon Ball Movie 4, which Toei made around the same time. Toei themselves tried to lampshade this when they had Goku state during his fight with Baby that Saiyans grow stronger the more they fight.
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Jul 27 2013, 01:41 AM
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Turles (post fruit) > Frieza 25% I haven't seen the movie, but I'm told Turles only surpassed 1st form Freeza.
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Jul 27 2013, 02:01 AM
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Yeah he should around 450-500k post 1st fruit and 2nd fruit didnt increase his power much, so he'd be under 1,000,000 most likely.
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Jul 27 2013, 02:01 AM
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If Cyborg Frieza is stronger than Frieza 100% and King Cold is almost equal to Cyborg Frieza wouldn't he be stronger than Frieza 100%? and how is Rildo stronger than Ledgic?
Cold isn't almost equal to Mecha Freeza. It was stated that Freeza was suppressed, and that's the level of power Cold was compared to. - Quote:
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and how is Rildo stronger than Ledgic?
I don't see how Goku got stronger he did no training or received zenkais but I do remember this
Ledgic > Goku, goku had to go ssj to defeat him
Goku > Rilldo, goku had no problems with Rilldo
Statements from the Mega Cannon Sigma and feats from Goku. - Quote:
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Finally, onto GT.
According to the Perfect Files Volume 1, GT began five years after Z ended. Throughout those five years, Goku and Oob were training intensely in a special room on the Lookout. Shown clearly by their fight in the first episode, the two were basically equals, at least when Goku remained in his regular form. Since they had been training together for five years straight in a specialized room, it is safe to assume they at least reached the power of Kid Boo.
Base Goku = Oob (BOGT) = Kid Boo > Base Goku = Oob (EOZ) > Good Boo
In a brief series of unfortunate events, Goku was turned into a kid. He was not stated to have lost any power from this in the show itself, and the Perfect Files Volume 1 note: "His body’s strength doesn’t seem to be any different than when he was an adult, but apparently his small body has diminished his stamina."
Goku then dove into a space adventure with Pan and Trunks to collect the Ultimate Dragon Balls, for if they didn't do so within a year, the Earth would explode. Along the way, Goku encountered a being called Redjic. Redjic was superior to Goku's normal power, but was inferior to his Super Saiyan power.
Super Saiyan Goku (BOGT) > Redjic > Base Goku (BOGT) = Oob (BOGT) = Kid Boo > Base Goku (EOZ) = Oob (EOZ) > Good Boo
After battling Redjic, eventually the group traveled to Planet M2, where they met up with the Mega Cannon Sigma and General Rild. The individual members of Mega Cannon Sigma were confident in defeating Goku, having the data recorded from his battle with Redjic, including when he used Super Saiyan. During their fight with him, Goku also showed them praise and said it had been a long time since he had met anybody like them. However, even combined, they were no match for Base Goku. This effectively showed that the Saiyan had grown a lot power-wise from his battles in space (remember: this is Toei).
Base Goku (Planet M2) > Super Mega Cannon Sigma > Neji > Veise > Nutt > Super Saiyan Goku (Planet Imegga) > Redjic > Base Goku (Planet Imegga) = Oob (BOGT) = Kid Boo > Base Goku (EOZ) = Oob (EOZ) > Good Boo
After easily defeating the Mega Cannon Sigma, Goku battled General Rild, who he implied was far more impressive than the machines. Base Goku was barely ahead of General Rild, who he stated was "even stronger" than some form of Majin Boo. Rild underwent two power-ups after Goku turned Super Saiyan, and was still at a noticeable disadvantage against the Saiyan; he was inevitably defeated. It is important to note that after Goku transformed, Rild stated that he had not been using "even half" of his power beforehand. This seemingly minor statement implies that the Super Saiyan multiplier was no longer 50-fold or 10-fold or anything large, but in fact was somewhere closer to 2- or 3-fold due to how it was said. If the multiplier was still, say, 50-fold at the time, Rild's observation would be an immense understatement. If the multiplier was truly still 50-fold, for instance, then a better statement would have been: "You weren't using even a tiny fraction of your power before." This is also shown during the filler battles inside Super Boo, as Base Goku goes from being at a slight disadvantage against Fake Gohan to being at a slight advantage after turning Super Saiyan. The multiplier was clearly not anything big in the minds of the Toei staff.
Super Saiyan Goku (Planet M2) > Meta-Rild > Hyper Metal Rild > Base Goku (Planet M2) > General Rild > Majin Boo > Super Mega Cannon Sigma > Neji > Veise > Nutt > Super Saiyan Goku (Planet Imegga) > Redjic > Base Goku (Planet Imegga) = Oob (BOGT) = Kid Boo > Base Goku (EOZ) = Oob (EOZ) > Good Boo
If you think the above chain is ridiculous due to Goku's power gains, just remember that this is Toei, and the same concept of him receiving unbelievably large amounts of power from seemingly every fight he is in happens in Dragon Ball Movie 4, which Toei made around the same time. Toei themselves tried to lampshade this when they had Goku state during his fight with Baby that Saiyans grow stronger the more they fight.
Thanks for this info so Goku >= Uub is not = to Ssj3 Goku >= Kid Buu as many believe
this is actual fact?
so buy BoGT Goku = Uub > Kid Buu? I guess that make since
In 7 years Goku didn't gain that much power only getting a stronger than Ssj Kid Gohan so in 10 years I can see him not gaining as much and then by GT not getting that strong as well
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Jul 27 2013, 02:07 AM
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Gains are plot-based. They don't make sense and don't really need to.
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