SSJ Gotenks (Post-ROSAT) Vs SSJ Gogeta

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SSJ Gotenks (Post-ROSAT) Vs SSJ Gogeta
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+ Pyrus	Jul 25 2013, 06:40 PM Post #31
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:34 PM I use a fusion formula and give gogeta a rival boost and everything works out. Prove there's a rival boost for the dance?
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+ Clearin	Jul 25 2013, 06:42 PM Post #32
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:39 PM Goku wouldnt be able to say How strong Gotenks would be if "fusion multiplier" isnt simply the same for everyone.. He has enough of a grasp on how it works to say "Judging by Goten and Trunks' powers they'll end up stronger than Buu" Quote: Prove there's a rival boost for the dance? I don't even think it has a rival boost but the obvious response to this is "prove it doesn't?"



EMIYA	Jul 25 2013, 06:46 PM Post #33
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	The multiplier initially would have to be large. Goku described the metamorphosos-can't think of the name but you know what I'm talking about-people as being very weak and not really anything impressive. But when they fused, they bombarded their powers up immensely and thus could pretty much point out the same thing if Goten and Trunks did it. We know for one that the fusion multiplier itself can increase we definitely see that with Gotenks. You know if the people Goku saw fusing got a 100x increase or something or whatever, he would probably think Goten and Trunks who are even more powerful should at least get the same kind of increase. Edited by EMIYA, Jul 25 2013, 06:47 PM.



SSJ	Jul 25 2013, 06:46 PM Post #34
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Clearin I don't even think it has a rival boost but the obvious response to this is "prove it doesn't?" It was never mentioned.



Muhahahaha	Jul 25 2013, 06:48 PM Post #35
Posts: 665 Group: Member Member #6,898 Joined: October 23, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? chrome of course Favourite Manga none	Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:39 PM Goku wouldnt be able to say How strong Gotenks would be if "fusion multiplier" isnt simply the same for everyone.. Quote: He has enough of a grasp on how it works to say "Judging by Goten and Trunks' powers they'll end up stronger than Buu" What were his estimitons based on, thought? Should we just assume he knew because of an untold knowledge? Quote: Prove there's a rival boost for the dance? Old kai said that "two rivals are joining, that's strongest" IIRC. he doesnt say its only for the potara. Edited by Muhahahaha, Jul 25 2013, 06:48 PM.



Zenet	Jul 25 2013, 06:48 PM Post #36
Posts: 2,755 Group: Member Member #8,544 Joined: November 11, 2012 Gender Not Specified	SSJ Gogeta > > SSJ Gotenks >>>>>>>>>>>>> SSJ Gotenks (pre)



+ Pyrus	Jul 25 2013, 06:51 PM Post #37
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:48 PM Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:39 PM Goku wouldnt be able to say How strong Gotenks would be if "fusion multiplier" isnt simply the same for everyone.. Quote: He has enough of a grasp on how it works to say "Judging by Goten and Trunks' powers they'll end up stronger than Buu" What were his estimitons based on, thought? Should we just assume he knew because of an untold knowledge? Quote: Prove there's a rival boost for the dance? Old kai said that "two rivals are joining, that's strongest" IIRC. he doesnt say its only for the potara. Yet he's talking in the context of the Potara, not the dance.
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Muhahahaha	Jul 25 2013, 06:54 PM Post #38
Posts: 665 Group: Member Member #6,898 Joined: October 23, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? chrome of course Favourite Manga none	ObsessiveFanGuy Jul 25 2013, 06:51 PM Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:48 PM Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:39 PM Goku wouldnt be able to say How strong Gotenks would be if "fusion multiplier" isnt simply the same for everyone.. Quote: He has enough of a grasp on how it works to say "Judging by Goten and Trunks' powers they'll end up stronger than Buu" What were his estimitons based on, thought? Should we just assume he knew because of an untold knowledge? Quote: Prove there's a rival boost for the dance? Old kai said that "two rivals are joining, that's strongest" IIRC. he doesnt say its only for the potara. Yet he's talking in the context of the Potara, not the dance. To me, he doesnt seem to refer to the rival boost as something that fusion dance cannot receive. So its possible imo. Edited by Muhahahaha, Jul 25 2013, 06:55 PM.



+ Pyrus	Jul 25 2013, 06:57 PM Post #39
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:54 PM ObsessiveFanGuy Jul 25 2013, 06:51 PM Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:48 PM Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:39 PM Goku wouldnt be able to say How strong Gotenks would be if "fusion multiplier" isnt simply the same for everyone.. Quote: He has enough of a grasp on how it works to say "Judging by Goten and Trunks' powers they'll end up stronger than Buu" What were his estimitons based on, thought? Should we just assume he knew because of an untold knowledge? Quote: Prove there's a rival boost for the dance? Old kai said that "two rivals are joining, that's strongest" IIRC. he doesnt say its only for the potara. Yet he's talking in the context of the Potara, not the dance. To me, he doesnt seem to refer to the rival boost as something that fusion dance cannot receive. So its possible imo. Possible, but then you'd have to prove it.
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Muhahahaha	Jul 25 2013, 06:58 PM Post #40
Posts: 665 Group: Member Member #6,898 Joined: October 23, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? chrome of course Favourite Manga none	ObsessiveFanGuy Jul 25 2013, 06:57 PM Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:54 PM ObsessiveFanGuy Jul 25 2013, 06:51 PM Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:48 PM Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:39 PM Goku wouldnt be able to say How strong Gotenks would be if "fusion multiplier" isnt simply the same for everyone.. Quote: He has enough of a grasp on how it works to say "Judging by Goten and Trunks' powers they'll end up stronger than Buu" What were his estimitons based on, thought? Should we just assume he knew because of an untold knowledge? Quote: Prove there's a rival boost for the dance? Old kai said that "two rivals are joining, that's strongest" IIRC. he doesnt say its only for the potara. Yet he's talking in the context of the Potara, not the dance. To me, he doesnt seem to refer to the rival boost as something that fusion dance cannot receive. So its possible imo. Possible, but then you'd have to prove it. My personal proof is the fact that based on Goku being able to guess how strong gotenks would be, Fusion multiplier is the same for everyone. or else how would he know? Since without a rival boost gogeta would end up far weaker than post-rosat gotenks, him getting a rival boost makes sense to me. Edited by Muhahahaha, Jul 25 2013, 07:00 PM.



~~Super Vegetto~~	Jul 25 2013, 06:59 PM Post #41
Posts: 3,460 Group: Suspended Member #7,405 Joined: March 6, 2012	ObsessiveFanGuy Jul 25 2013, 06:57 PM Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:54 PM ObsessiveFanGuy Jul 25 2013, 06:51 PM Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:48 PM Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:39 PM Goku wouldnt be able to say How strong Gotenks would be if "fusion multiplier" isnt simply the same for everyone.. Quote: He has enough of a grasp on how it works to say "Judging by Goten and Trunks' powers they'll end up stronger than Buu" What were his estimitons based on, thought? Should we just assume he knew because of an untold knowledge? Quote: Prove there's a rival boost for the dance? Old kai said that "two rivals are joining, that's strongest" IIRC. he doesnt say its only for the potara. Yet he's talking in the context of the Potara, not the dance. To me, he doesnt seem to refer to the rival boost as something that fusion dance cannot receive. So its possible imo. Possible, but then you'd have to prove it. The two rivals would join and give fusion character (Gogeta) some power like with Vegetto. Nothing contradicts it...
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+ Pyrus	Jul 25 2013, 07:00 PM Post #42
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:58 PM ObsessiveFanGuy Jul 25 2013, 06:57 PM Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:54 PM ObsessiveFanGuy Jul 25 2013, 06:51 PM Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:48 PM Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:39 PM Goku wouldnt be able to say How strong Gotenks would be if "fusion multiplier" isnt simply the same for everyone.. Quote: He has enough of a grasp on how it works to say "Judging by Goten and Trunks' powers they'll end up stronger than Buu" What were his estimitons based on, thought? Should we just assume he knew because of an untold knowledge? Quote: Prove there's a rival boost for the dance? Old kai said that "two rivals are joining, that's strongest" IIRC. he doesnt say its only for the potara. Yet he's talking in the context of the Potara, not the dance. To me, he doesnt seem to refer to the rival boost as something that fusion dance cannot receive. So its possible imo. Possible, but then you'd have to prove it. My personal proof is the fact that based on Goku being able to guess how strong gotenks would be, Fusion multiplier is the same for everyone. or else how would he know? Since without a rival boost gogeta would end up far weaker than post-rosat gotenks, him getting a rival boost makes sense to me. But...is that actual evidence and not just your belief? @Super Vegetto: Don't even start. Edited by Pyrus, Jul 25 2013, 07:00 PM.
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Muhahahaha	Jul 25 2013, 07:02 PM Post #43
Posts: 665 Group: Member Member #6,898 Joined: October 23, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? chrome of course Favourite Manga none	ObsessiveFanGuy Jul 25 2013, 07:00 PM Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:58 PM ObsessiveFanGuy Jul 25 2013, 06:57 PM Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:54 PM ObsessiveFanGuy Jul 25 2013, 06:51 PM Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:48 PM Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:39 PM Goku wouldnt be able to say How strong Gotenks would be if "fusion multiplier" isnt simply the same for everyone.. Quote: He has enough of a grasp on how it works to say "Judging by Goten and Trunks' powers they'll end up stronger than Buu" What were his estimitons based on, thought? Should we just assume he knew because of an untold knowledge? Quote: Prove there's a rival boost for the dance? Old kai said that "two rivals are joining, that's strongest" IIRC. he doesnt say its only for the potara. Yet he's talking in the context of the Potara, not the dance. To me, he doesnt seem to refer to the rival boost as something that fusion dance cannot receive. So its possible imo. Possible, but then you'd have to prove it. My personal proof is the fact that based on Goku being able to guess how strong gotenks would be, Fusion multiplier is the same for everyone. or else how would he know? Since without a rival boost gogeta would end up far weaker than post-rosat gotenks, him getting a rival boost makes sense to me. But...is that actual evidence and not just your belief? @Super Vegetto: Don't even start. Maybe. How do you explain Goku being able to guess Pre rosat ssj gotenks would be stronger than his ssj3?



+ Clearin	Jul 25 2013, 07:02 PM Post #44
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	The fusion multiplier is obviously not the same for everyone. Remember how Goku thought fusing with Mr Satan would barley increase his power, if at all? Well if it was a set multiplier Mr Satan fused with Goku would be pretty much half the strength of a non-rival boosted Vegetto, and that's obviously BS. To put it in numbers: Mr Satan: 1 Goku: 1,000 Vegeta: 1,000 Potara: A + B * 10 Mr Satan + Goku potara = 10,010 Vegetto without rival boost = 20,000 Obviously that's Potara and not fusion dance but I believe the same logic applies, just that potara gives bigger boosts to lower PLs.



+ Pyrus	Jul 25 2013, 07:03 PM Post #45
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 07:02 PM ObsessiveFanGuy Jul 25 2013, 07:00 PM Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:58 PM ObsessiveFanGuy Jul 25 2013, 06:57 PM Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:54 PM ObsessiveFanGuy Jul 25 2013, 06:51 PM Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:48 PM Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:39 PM Goku wouldnt be able to say How strong Gotenks would be if "fusion multiplier" isnt simply the same for everyone.. Quote: He has enough of a grasp on how it works to say "Judging by Goten and Trunks' powers they'll end up stronger than Buu" What were his estimitons based on, thought? Should we just assume he knew because of an untold knowledge? Quote: Prove there's a rival boost for the dance? Old kai said that "two rivals are joining, that's strongest" IIRC. he doesnt say its only for the potara. Yet he's talking in the context of the Potara, not the dance. To me, he doesnt seem to refer to the rival boost as something that fusion dance cannot receive. So its possible imo. Possible, but then you'd have to prove it. My personal proof is the fact that based on Goku being able to guess how strong gotenks would be, Fusion multiplier is the same for everyone. or else how would he know? Since without a rival boost gogeta would end up far weaker than post-rosat gotenks, him getting a rival boost makes sense to me. But...is that actual evidence and not just your belief? @Super Vegetto: Don't even start. Maybe. How do you explain Goku being able to guess Pre rosat ssj gotenks would be stronger than his ssj3? He was taught the art. He knew the power of the boys. He knew the power of himself and Boo. He made an educated guess.
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