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SSJ Gotenks (Post-ROSAT) Vs SSJ Gogeta
Topic Started: Jul 25 2013, 02:26 PM (6,759 Views)
+ Clearin Jul 25 2013, 04:59 PM Post #16
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Shunheng
Jul 25 2013, 04:57 PM
It was in the game Shin Budokai but i remember Gotenks stating he couldn't beat Janemba even with his Super Saiyan 3 form
Well I think it goes without saying that games are about as far from reliable as you can get, especially the what-if segments.
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+ Pyrus Jul 25 2013, 05:03 PM Post #17
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 Games are stupid to bring into debates.
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Augahn Jul 25 2013, 05:03 PM Post #18
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 Well this is a what if fight itself yes? Basing off games shouldnt be too far off. They dont have a reason to lie? Unless they have some ishh like Hercule being superior in his own story or somethin
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+ Pyrus Jul 25 2013, 05:16 PM Post #19
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Shunheng
Jul 25 2013, 05:03 PM
Well this is a what if fight itself yes? Basing off games shouldnt be too far off. They dont have a reason to lie? Unless they have some ishh like Hercule being superior in his own story or somethin
No...no, that's not grounds to bring in games at all...
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+ Clearin Jul 25 2013, 05:17 PM Post #20
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 The games rank slightly above fanfiction in terms of how canon they are.
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IllogicalGlory Jul 25 2013, 05:21 PM Post #21
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Shunheng
Jul 25 2013, 05:03 PM
Well this is a what if fight itself yes? Basing off games shouldnt be too far off. They dont have a reason to lie? Unless they have some ishh like Hercule being superior in his own story or somethin
They have no idea what they're talking about.
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SSJ Jul 25 2013, 05:49 PM Post #22
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Jul 25 2013, 04:09 PM
Chapter: 495 (DBZ 301), P6.1-3, P7.1-3
Context: after Gotenks blasts Boo with the Rapid-Fire Die-Die Missiles and Piccolo stops him
Gotenks: “Well, whatever. I already did quite a lot, after all. He should be pretty weakened.”
*Boo comes out*
Gotenks: “…He ain’t weakened…This really pisses me off!”
Piccolo: “N-no…He is weakened…I don’t know about physically, but he’s weakened a little mentally…! Th-this is the first time…that he’s fought someone strong like you…He’s feeling flustered by someone whose strength is at least on par with his own…”
Gotenks: “Dehhehheh! So in other words, Majin Boo’s freaked out, huh!? That’s right! My strength ain’t half-assed! I’m the best in the universe!”
Piccolo: “Don’t let your guard down! He’ll be coming at you frantically now…!”
Gotenks: “Dahhahhah, that’s no problem, no problem at all! That’s just what I was hoping for!”
A counter to that is this:

Chapter: 499 (DBZ 305), P12.2-4
Gohan: “…That was dirty, you bastard…You ingested the two of them into yourself…”
Boo: “It’s your fault. You were stronger than I, who should have been the absolute strongest…When I sensed your distant presence, I started up on this strategy…In case maybe, just maybe, there was anyone stronger than myself…Then I hit upon it: if I absorbed that ‘Super Gotenks’ squirt I was fighting at the time, then no matter what kind of guy appeared, my throne as the strongest would not be shaken…”


Boo says he was the strongest until Gohan appeared.


I don't follow this line of thinking though.
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Super Vegetto Jul 25 2013, 05:53 PM Post #23
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 Well i give it to Gogeta since Adults are stronger and because Goku stated how fusing (fusion dance) with Vegeta > Super Boo.
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EMIYA Jul 25 2013, 06:06 PM Post #24
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"I am the bone of my sword."

 If you use something small like a 10x SSj multiplier and a relatively large gap between Pre-Gotenks and Gogeta in the first place, though I think you'd have to push it, you could get Gogeta stronger.

But if you use a 50x SSJ multiplier and/or a relatively shortened gap between Pre-Gotenks and Gogeta to start out with, then Gogeta literally has no chance. We've got Post-ROSAT Base Gotenks implied to make a making a 40x increase here. SSJ Gotenks would literally surpass every form of Gogeta unless you just used a massive multiplier, and I use 10x for SSj2 and 15x for SSj3 respectfully.
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IllogicalGlory Jul 25 2013, 06:20 PM Post #25
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Jul 25 2013, 05:17 PM
The games rank slightly above fanfiction in terms of how canon they are.
I'm pretty sure some game gave Monster Zarbon a power level of 55,000. At least fan fiction writers have a slight clue about powers.
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+ Pyrus Jul 25 2013, 06:33 PM Post #26
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 If you don't use a fusion formula you don't run into problems.
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Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:34 PM Post #27
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I use a fusion formula and give gogeta a rival boost and everything works out.
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SSJ Jul 25 2013, 06:36 PM Post #28
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 Yah if we just assume that not all fusions are linear in power, then no problems happen.
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EMIYA Jul 25 2013, 06:38 PM Post #29
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"I am the bone of my sword."

 If you don't use a fusion multiplier or formula, then it could probably work.
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Muhahahaha Jul 25 2013, 06:39 PM Post #30
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Goku wouldnt be able to say How strong Gotenks would be if "fusion multiplier" isnt simply the same for everyone..
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