SSJ Gotenks (Post-ROSAT) Vs SSJ Gogeta

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SSJ Gotenks (Post-ROSAT) Vs SSJ Gogeta
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RikuXPaine	Jul 25 2013, 02:26 PM Post #1
Posts: 50 Group: Member Member #8,944 Joined: January 30, 2013 Favourite Anime Initial D, One Outs, Sword Art Online, Dragonball, Clannad What Browser do you use? Chrome	Whose stronger & who would win in a fight?



EMIYA	Jul 25 2013, 02:30 PM Post #2
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	I actually have Gotenks kicking the crap out of Gogeta here. I originally would've had Gogeta stronger because obvious Goku+Vegeta>Goten+Trunks, but I had mistakenly forgotten that there's a massive gap between Post-Gotenks and Pre-Gotenks even if there isn't much of change between Goten and Trunks themselves. While SSj Gogeta>SSJ Gotenks (Pre-Rosat) Post Gotenks in just base alone would be enough of a challenge to SSJ Gogeta. Heck I have SSJ Gotenks stronger than SSj2 Gogeta by my numbers and multipliers.



Muhahahaha	Jul 25 2013, 02:34 PM Post #3
Posts: 665 Group: Member Member #6,898 Joined: October 23, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? chrome of course Favourite Manga none	Brofist Jul 25 2013, 02:30 PM I actually have Gotenks kicking the crap out of Gogeta here. I originally would've had Gogeta stronger because obvious Goku+Vegeta>Goten+Trunks, but I had mistakenly forgotten that there's a massive gap between Post-Gotenks and Pre-Gotenks even if there isn't much of change between Goten and Trunks themselves. While SSj Gogeta>SSJ Gotenks (Pre-Rosat) Post Gotenks in just base alone would be enough of a challenge to SSJ Gogeta. Heck I have SSJ Gotenks stronger than SSj2 Gogeta by my numbers and multipliers. Gogeta is implied to be > super boo at the least, so how can he be far below post rosat gotenks? I think in order to have gogeta > gotenks post, you should just give gogeta the rival boost and he'll end up above gotenks post(that's while he gets the same fusion multiplier as pre-rosat gotenks). There's no evidence Gogeta cant have the rival boost anyway from what I remember. Edited by Muhahahaha, Jul 25 2013, 02:35 PM.



RikuXPaine	Jul 25 2013, 02:39 PM Post #4
Posts: 50 Group: Member Member #8,944 Joined: January 30, 2013 Favourite Anime Initial D, One Outs, Sword Art Online, Dragonball, Clannad What Browser do you use? Chrome	I doubt he's at Super Buu's level. There's no way Gogeta can even be near SSJ3 Gotenks. Even with the boost he still wouldn't match Super Buu But with the boost I would say he's stronger than Gotenks Edited by RikuXPaine, Jul 25 2013, 02:43 PM.



EMIYA	Jul 25 2013, 02:55 PM Post #5
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	Nothing at all implies regular fusion gives rival boosts so there's no reason to think of it as such. The difference between Gogeta and Pre-Gotenks would similar to that between say Goku and Goten. I have less than a 5x difference the two, technically I have less than 4x but I'll be willing to budge here and there if I must. I have a 50x SSJ multiplier and with Base Gotenks (Post)>SSJ Gotenks (Pre) implied, you can kind of understand the massive gap Post Gotenks has over Gogeta now. It's not that Goten and Trunks have changed, but that Gotenks has just increased massively over his Pre-ROSAT self.



RikuXPaine	Jul 25 2013, 03:04 PM Post #6
Posts: 50 Group: Member Member #8,944 Joined: January 30, 2013 Favourite Anime Initial D, One Outs, Sword Art Online, Dragonball, Clannad What Browser do you use? Chrome	Right, so I guess I would put SSJ Gotenks Post around SSJ2 or SSJ3 Gogeta. That means Janemba would be below Base Gotenks Post



~~Dartlard~~	Jul 25 2013, 03:23 PM Post #7
Posts: 80 Group: Suspended Member #9,799 Joined: July 25, 2013 Favourite Anime DBZ	Brofist Jul 25 2013, 02:30 PM I actually have Gotenks kicking the crap out of Gogeta here. I originally would've had Gogeta stronger because obvious Goku+Vegeta>Goten+Trunks, but I had mistakenly forgotten that there's a massive gap between Post-Gotenks and Pre-Gotenks even if there isn't much of change between Goten and Trunks themselves. While SSj Gogeta>SSJ Gotenks (Pre-Rosat) Post Gotenks in just base alone would be enough of a challenge to SSJ Gogeta. Heck I have SSJ Gotenks stronger than SSj2 Gogeta by my numbers and multipliers. That doesn't make any sense.. Gotenks was never to be implied to be superior to any Gogeta. If anything there is proof that Gogeta is > Gotenks. Gotenks couldn't beat Super Boo, Goku thought a fusion between Vegeta and Goku would defeat Super Boo. Therefore all of your multipliers and calculations are invalid, and Gogeta is superior to Gotenks by a wide margin.



+ Clearin	Jul 25 2013, 03:31 PM Post #8
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Dartlard Jul 25 2013, 03:23 PM Brofist Jul 25 2013, 02:30 PM I actually have Gotenks kicking the crap out of Gogeta here. I originally would've had Gogeta stronger because obvious Goku+Vegeta>Goten+Trunks, but I had mistakenly forgotten that there's a massive gap between Post-Gotenks and Pre-Gotenks even if there isn't much of change between Goten and Trunks themselves. While SSj Gogeta>SSJ Gotenks (Pre-Rosat) Post Gotenks in just base alone would be enough of a challenge to SSJ Gogeta. Heck I have SSJ Gotenks stronger than SSj2 Gogeta by my numbers and multipliers. That doesn't make any sense.. Gotenks was never to be implied to be superior to any Gogeta. If anything there is proof that Gogeta is > Gotenks. Gotenks couldn't beat Super Boo, Goku thought a fusion between Vegeta and Goku would defeat Super Boo. Therefore all of your multipliers and calculations are invalid, and Gogeta is superior to Gotenks by a wide margin. Gotenks could beat Super Buu and was just about to before his SSj3 ran out. Also Goku + Vegeta > Goten and Trunks so naturally I have Gogeta > Gotenks. Not by a lot, a little less than x2 I'd say.



~~Dartlard~~	Jul 25 2013, 03:39 PM Post #9
Posts: 80 Group: Suspended Member #9,799 Joined: July 25, 2013 Favourite Anime DBZ	Clearin Jul 25 2013, 03:31 PM Dartlard Jul 25 2013, 03:23 PM Brofist Jul 25 2013, 02:30 PM I actually have Gotenks kicking the crap out of Gogeta here. I originally would've had Gogeta stronger because obvious Goku+Vegeta>Goten+Trunks, but I had mistakenly forgotten that there's a massive gap between Post-Gotenks and Pre-Gotenks even if there isn't much of change between Goten and Trunks themselves. While SSj Gogeta>SSJ Gotenks (Pre-Rosat) Post Gotenks in just base alone would be enough of a challenge to SSJ Gogeta. Heck I have SSJ Gotenks stronger than SSj2 Gogeta by my numbers and multipliers. That doesn't make any sense.. Gotenks was never to be implied to be superior to any Gogeta. If anything there is proof that Gogeta is > Gotenks. Gotenks couldn't beat Super Boo, Goku thought a fusion between Vegeta and Goku would defeat Super Boo. Therefore all of your multipliers and calculations are invalid, and Gogeta is superior to Gotenks by a wide margin. Gotenks could beat Super Buu and was just about to before his SSj3 ran out. Also Goku + Vegeta > Goten and Trunks so naturally I have Gogeta > Gotenks. Not by a lot, a little less than x2 I'd say. There's evidence of Super Boo being superior to SSJ3 Gotenks. He had plans for SSJ3 Gotenks because he felt a stronger power (Gohan). And his status of being the strongest warrior in the universe would be unshaken.



+ Pyrus	Jul 25 2013, 03:56 PM Post #10
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	I could get Gogeta 2.5x stronger than Gotenks, but 2x works as well. Gotenks would get stomped here.
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+ Clearin	Jul 25 2013, 03:58 PM Post #11
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Dartlard Jul 25 2013, 03:39 PM Clearin Jul 25 2013, 03:31 PM Dartlard Jul 25 2013, 03:23 PM Brofist Jul 25 2013, 02:30 PM I actually have Gotenks kicking the crap out of Gogeta here. I originally would've had Gogeta stronger because obvious Goku+Vegeta>Goten+Trunks, but I had mistakenly forgotten that there's a massive gap between Post-Gotenks and Pre-Gotenks even if there isn't much of change between Goten and Trunks themselves. While SSj Gogeta>SSJ Gotenks (Pre-Rosat) Post Gotenks in just base alone would be enough of a challenge to SSJ Gogeta. Heck I have SSJ Gotenks stronger than SSj2 Gogeta by my numbers and multipliers. That doesn't make any sense.. Gotenks was never to be implied to be superior to any Gogeta. If anything there is proof that Gogeta is > Gotenks. Gotenks couldn't beat Super Boo, Goku thought a fusion between Vegeta and Goku would defeat Super Boo. Therefore all of your multipliers and calculations are invalid, and Gogeta is superior to Gotenks by a wide margin. Gotenks could beat Super Buu and was just about to before his SSj3 ran out. Also Goku + Vegeta > Goten and Trunks so naturally I have Gogeta > Gotenks. Not by a lot, a little less than x2 I'd say. There's evidence of Super Boo being superior to SSJ3 Gotenks. He had plans for SSJ3 Gotenks because he felt a stronger power (Gohan). And his status of being the strongest warrior in the universe would be unshaken. Super Buu's plan involved being 2 seconds away from having every atom in his body disintegrated only to be saved by sheer luck? Edited by Clearin, Jul 25 2013, 03:58 PM.



+ Pyrus	Jul 25 2013, 04:09 PM Post #12
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Chapter: 495 (DBZ 301), P6.1-3, P7.1-3 Context: after Gotenks blasts Boo with the Rapid-Fire Die-Die Missiles and Piccolo stops him Gotenks: “Well, whatever. I already did quite a lot, after all. He should be pretty weakened.” Boo comes out Gotenks: “…He ain’t weakened…This really pisses me off!” Piccolo: “N-no…He is weakened…I don’t know about physically, but he’s weakened a little mentally…! Th-this is the first time…that he’s fought someone strong like you…He’s feeling flustered by someone whose strength is at least on par with his own…” Gotenks: “Dehhehheh! So in other words, Majin Boo’s freaked out, huh!? That’s right! My strength ain’t half-assed! I’m the best in the universe!” Piccolo: “Don’t let your guard down! He’ll be coming at you frantically now…!” Gotenks: “Dahhahhah, that’s no problem, no problem at all! That’s just what I was hoping for!”
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RikuXPaine	Jul 25 2013, 04:19 PM Post #13
Posts: 50 Group: Member Member #8,944 Joined: January 30, 2013 Favourite Anime Initial D, One Outs, Sword Art Online, Dragonball, Clannad What Browser do you use? Chrome	Honestly it depends on how much of a power difference between Pre Gotenks & Post Gotenks. If it really is a massive difference then im all with Brofist on this one



+ Clearin	Jul 25 2013, 04:22 PM Post #14
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	I don't use a set multiplier for fusion so I can easily get around that. Fusion multiplier itself depends on the people fusing, the stronger they are the bigger the multiplier.



Augahn	Jul 25 2013, 04:57 PM Post #15
Astrian Posts: 499 Group: Duplicate Member #9,505 Joined: May 17, 2013 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z	It was in the game Shin Budokai but i remember Gotenks stating he couldn't beat Janemba even with his Super Saiyan 3 form



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