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| Super Saiyan 2 Goku on Kaio's planet? | |
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| + Pyrus | Jul 25 2013, 04:41 AM Post #1 |
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What do you think? Was Goku a Super Saiyan 2 here? Was he hiding it the whole time?! |
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| IllogicalGlory | Jul 25 2013, 04:57 AM Post #2 |
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Hmm, the bangs seem to match up quite nicely, but there isn't any visible lightning there. What's with his hair? It's the same color as his gi. SSJ God perhaps? ![]() But, wouldn't SSJ2 Goku have been able to defeat Perfect Cell? If he has SSJ2, he clearly doesn't have much faith in it: Chapter: 405 (DBZ 211), P10.4, P10.6 Goku: “…Wait for Gohan to get angry…! He’ll…probably…unleash his true power through anger, and suddenly display ferocious strength [ ] …To defeat Cell…The only thing we can do is place our hopes in this power of Gohan’s…” Gohan's latent power is the only thing he can put his hope in, apparently. There's also this: Chapter: 391 (DBZ 197), P10.4-5 Context: After powering up and almost destroying Karin’s tower… Goku: “That just now was about half power. What do you think? He marks that level out as being half his power, if he had SSJ2, that would make him a liar. Oh, and if he had SSJ2 and believed that it wasn't enough, he would have demonstrated it to Gohan. He taught him how to use super saiyan, I would guess that he would have taught him super saiyan 2 as well, if he was capable of using it. Edited by IllogicalGlory, Jul 25 2013, 05:05 AM.
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| + Pyrus | Jul 25 2013, 05:15 AM Post #3 |
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It's possible he achieved the form during that exact moment, so he wouldn't have even been able to tell Gohan.
Edited by Pyrus, Jul 25 2013, 05:16 AM.
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| NavonWise | Jul 25 2013, 05:18 AM Post #4 |
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You're joking right? Lol |
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| SSJ | Jul 25 2013, 05:22 AM Post #5 |
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Considering Gohan didn't have lightning either, it is entirely possible, but:
Daiz thinks Goku and Vegeta both achieved it later, through training. Goku hadn't trainined in the otherworld yet as the Daiz states, so I doubt he was SSJ 2. |
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| NavonWise | Jul 25 2013, 05:24 AM Post #6 |
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Even though I think this is a joke, but oh well. It's impossible since Goku wasn't there with Gohan, so...yeah... |
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| + Pyrus | Jul 25 2013, 05:24 AM Post #7 |
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If it was just a burst for that moment, I doubt it would be considered actually transforming, so he could have truly achieved the form later during training. |
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| SSJ | Jul 25 2013, 05:26 AM Post #8 |
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I suppose, but SSJ 2 requires an emotional suffering, just like SSJ. Goku really didn't have that, did he? Sure he was worried for the earth, but he didn't have the motivation to transform. |
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| Copy_Ninja | Jul 25 2013, 05:26 AM Post #9 |
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Damn, the artwork is so nice here. Shame at how it declines somewhat in the next arc, especially towards the end. It'd be a pretty big stretch to say this is the moment Goku got SSJ2, although I suppose you could argue that it has the emotional aspect to it, though Vegeta pretty much showed that the emotional side might not be necessary for it anyway. |
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| EMIYA | Jul 25 2013, 05:27 AM Post #10 |
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Hair's not blonde, I believe this is what we would consider the initial form of the Legendary Super Saiyan 2 God form...maybe if Bills wasn't paying so much attention to Freeza, he might have noticed this...stupid Egyptian cat. |
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| NavonWise | Jul 25 2013, 05:31 AM Post #11 |
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Come on seriously? Lol guys, Goku was not there with Gohan, he was communicating with him while dead remember? There is no way he can be there with Gohan spiritually or physically since only Baba has the ability to bring someone to the living realm....member? |
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| + Pyrus | Jul 25 2013, 05:34 AM Post #12 |
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There's nothing that states a necessary emotional trigger. What trigger did Vegeta have during the seven years? Or Goku if you think he got it then?
What's impossible? That he used the form at all? I don't see how Goku not being there with Gohan would lead to that conclusion.
I wouldn't say he "got it" at that moment. More...he momentarily tapped into that power.
The hair color might be different because he's there in a sort of spiritual form. Edited by Pyrus, Jul 25 2013, 05:35 AM.
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| SSJ | Jul 25 2013, 05:37 AM Post #13 |
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Goku could easily emulate emotions by bringing memories from the past, like he told Gohan to do in the rosat. Vegeta on the other hand could use the pure rage from trying to catch up to Goku. |
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| NavonWise | Jul 25 2013, 05:39 AM Post #14 |
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Pyro, Goku was with King Kai, he wasn't with Gohan throwing a Kamehameha.. |
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| SSJ | Jul 25 2013, 05:41 AM Post #15 |
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The anime shows Goku as a SSJ for what it's worth. (Nothing lol) |
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