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Speed and Power Question
Topic Started: Jul 25 2013, 01:25 AM (322 Views)
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How directly do these two correspond? If we had a SSJ with a BP of 100, and an SSJ 2 with a BP of 100, would they have the same speed?
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There are multiple quotes that show they aren't directly related. The easiest way to show it would be simply: Goku > Burter > Ginyu in speed.

But there's many times a character is surprised that the opponent is fast as well as strong. Power and sped are usually treated as completely separate things.
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I think Ginyu is faster than Burter. He knew Goku just owned Burter, Jeice, and Recoome, and then he said this.

Chapter: 284 (DBZ 90), P10.3
Ginyu: “He’s fast! Is his speed greater than mine?!”

He emphasizes his own speed, making it seem like he was the fastest.

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Goku could have beaten Burter while been slower. Ginyu himself said Burter was the fastest in the Universe, doesn't get much clearer than that who's the faster between those two.
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The two aren't always directly related, but unless stated or implied otherwise I would assume that the two are more or less similar (not sure how to word it, basically a character's strength should also speak for their speed unless shown otherwise).
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Burter had a different battle speed compared to his flight speed. In normal flight, he was extremely fast. But in battle, he was the same speed as Jeice. He did nothing to prove otherwise.
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Jul 25 2013, 01:45 AM
Burter had a different battle speed compared to his flight speed. In normal flight, he was extremely fast. But in battle, he was the same speed as Jeice. He did nothing to prove otherwise.
Actually the Manga did let us see that Burter punches and kicks faster than Jeice during the scenes where they attack Goku.
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Jul 25 2013, 01:47 AM
SuperSaiyan2
Jul 25 2013, 01:45 AM
Burter had a different battle speed compared to his flight speed. In normal flight, he was extremely fast. But in battle, he was the same speed as Jeice. He did nothing to prove otherwise.
Actually the Manga did let us see that Burter punches and kicks faster than Jeice during the scenes where they attack Goku.
I just read it last week, and don't remember that. Mind posting a scan?
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Jul 25 2013, 02:03 AM
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Jul 25 2013, 01:47 AM
SuperSaiyan2
Jul 25 2013, 01:45 AM
Burter had a different battle speed compared to his flight speed. In normal flight, he was extremely fast. But in battle, he was the same speed as Jeice. He did nothing to prove otherwise.
Actually the Manga did let us see that Burter punches and kicks faster than Jeice during the scenes where they attack Goku.
I just read it last week, and don't remember that. Mind posting a scan?
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Burter punches and kicks three times for every one of Jeice's punches/kicks.
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It doesn't exist.
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Power and Speed are different for example Frieza transformed and Piccolo thought he was still faster, Gohan thought Fat Buu wasn't fast enuff to catch him
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They don't correspond by default, but with the proper type of training, they increase at the basically the same rate.

In battles among equals or near equals, there is usually little difference between them, whether it be power speed. One might have a slight advantage either way, but it's not too significant, except in special cases like SSJ grade 3.

Kaio-ken doubles one's speed and power, but Vegeta was still greater in both those aspects than over 8000 Goku, despite his scouter number only being a bit higher.
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