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| NavonWise | Jul 22 2013, 06:19 PM Post #16 |
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Well, where was it implied Vegeta was stronger or slightly for that matter? |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jul 22 2013, 06:27 PM Post #17 |
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He was stronger after the first trip into the RoSaT. Vegeta proceeds to call him an idiot and is angry that his own son can't even train properly, then they go back in separately. Nothing else is stated about Trunks' power, other than it's near Vegeta's, just like it was after the first trip. |
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| + Pyrus | Jul 22 2013, 06:32 PM Post #18 |
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After the first RoSaT trip, and since nothing implied or stated otherwise, it would remain that way after the second. Unless you've got evidence we haven't seen yet, in which case, present it. Otherwise, it isn't really debatable. |
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| NavonWise | Jul 22 2013, 07:06 PM Post #19 |
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Where is it implied after the first trip? |
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| + Clearin | Jul 22 2013, 07:10 PM Post #20 |
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Chapter: 379 (DBZ 185), P11.4 Context: Vegeta talks to second form Cell Vegeta: “Heh. I’ll tell you something that will really shock you! There’s a guy named Trunks over there. He’s not as powerful as me, but we’re pretty close…!” Not implied, flatout stated. |
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| NavonWise | Jul 22 2013, 07:13 PM Post #21 |
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Then Trunks says differently, if I remember correctly, even Krillin says Vegeta is too proud to admit it but Trunks had more power hiding. How do you guys find these translations instantly? Lol do you guys bookmark it or something? I go to Kanzeshuu and just give up, I never find them translations. Edited by NavonWise, Jul 22 2013, 07:14 PM.
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| * Yu Narukami | Jul 22 2013, 07:31 PM Post #22 |
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Trunks 'having more power' is Grade 3. When they're both in the same form, Vegeta stated that he's stronger than Trunks. |
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| + Pyrus | Jul 22 2013, 07:35 PM Post #23 |
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Oh, boy, here we go with that. Trunks and Krillin were referring to Grade 3, which is also contradicted later on when Trunks admits that Vegeta was smart enough not to use the form in combat. |
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| NavonWise | Jul 22 2013, 08:06 PM Post #24 |
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Hm...I gotta re read my manga, I'm falling off. But still, Krillin somehow knew Trunks had power hidden, and didn't say the same for Vegeta. If Vegeta could've done it, wouldn't Krillin also feel that power hidden? I don't even trust Vegeta like that, I mean in this stage he's pretty much cocky as hell, you actually think he'll flat out say, yeah that guy right there is stronger than me? He thought he could beat Freiza, he failed to sense Cell's powers even after getting destroyed. He flat out underestimates Fat Buu when Goku clearly senses something strange inside of Buu, and this is years after so he's suppose to be a bit more smarter about these things. And suddenly I'm suppose to take his word for it that he was stronger than his son who at this point, doesn't really care for that much? I must've missed something, I'll go ahead and re read my mangas. |
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| + Pyrus | Jul 22 2013, 08:09 PM Post #25 |
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Navon, you're about to be handed something brilliant. |
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| NavonWise | Jul 22 2013, 08:12 PM Post #26 |
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Lol honestly, I gotta re read my mangas, it's been two years since I read the whole thing, the damn collection is collecting dust. But really, I'm trying to understand why take his words for it in this case when he's been wrong through out the series. |
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| + Pyrus | Jul 22 2013, 08:14 PM Post #27 |
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Because rule #1. |
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| + Clearin | Jul 22 2013, 08:18 PM Post #28 |
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People seem to assume Krillin knowing Trunks had more hidden power was some kind of magical ability that Krillin had but never showed before or after. I honestly think he just noticed from the way Trunks was acting. |
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| NavonWise | Jul 22 2013, 08:20 PM Post #29 |
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But it was a bit contradicted with Trunks having USSJ, and even though he himself does say Vegeta possibly had USSJ, he made the assumption that maybe Vegeta did know the the draw backs of USSJ. For Vegeta to know it's the effects of USSJ, he would have to achieve it first, and if he did, why did Krillin only feel something inside Trunks and not Vegeta? No magical ability there lol he's most likely really good at sensing. I mean just from Cell kicking him, he had a decent grasp at how powerful Cell was, even though Cell was hiding a huge amount of power. Edited by NavonWise, Jul 22 2013, 08:22 PM.
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| * Yu Narukami | Jul 22 2013, 08:22 PM Post #30 |
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Was it confirmed that Vegeta actually attained Grade 3? Or did he just (correctly) write it off from the beginning and focus on Grade 2? It's not like Grade 3's anything special, anyway |
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