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Videl
Topic Started: Jul 22 2013, 01:20 AM (2,784 Views)
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Havoc is bringing the pain these days.

But he's right. Chi-Chi's feats at the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai are far more impressive than Videl's, and her implied strength is unfathomable to someone of Videl's nature. It's not a good comparison.

Kid Chi-Chi and Videl would be a more viable comparison, if you ask me.
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Yeah it would be,

Well kp its why im named havoc, toughest member of the year sucka
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Jul 22 2013, 03:02 AM
Kblo247
Jul 22 2013, 02:29 AM
Needing to be healed from Dende isn't proof. The bullet ricochets off freaking Gohan. That's more velocity than any gun can ever produce and would kill anyone, let alone scratch a pregnant girl. Vegeta at 18k could still be cut by Yajirobe for instance, and taking BoG into account she can control ki much better as she taps I to pans without straining herself at all
How does hitting a hard surface cause the bullet to accelerate?
Are we ignoring Gohan hits the bullet? He has them shoot him and then bats it away. Its the equivalent of him throwing it, not like Goku catching one in the head and it stopping. Gohan was drunk and batted it thus it hits Videl. Its no different than Goten throwing rocks. A normal rock may hurt, but Goten throwing them and it connecting is deadly to anyone outside their group
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Jul 22 2013, 04:30 AM
Are we ignoring Gohan hits the bullet? He has them shoot him and then bats it away. Its the equivalent of him throwing it, not like Goku catching one in the head and it stopping. Gohan was drunk and batted it thus it hits Videl. Its no different than Goten throwing rocks. A normal rock may hurt, but Goten throwing them and it connecting is deadly to anyone outside their group
He didn't deflect it with his hand. Where are you getting that?
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Gohan proceeds to reprimand the Pilaf trio for carrying real firearms. Gohan tells them that it would have been awful if they had shot someone besides him, at which point Videl screams out in pain. It turns out that one of the bullets hit her leg.
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My bad too much YouTube for me then
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ChiChi was a superhuman during the 23rd Budokai IMO, even Roshi complimented her. Plus she had Goku on the ropes for a sec there (granted he was probably restricting himself by a mother-load). Videl just doesn't have those kinds of feats.
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I look at spopovitch and I don't see chi chi nor master roshi defeating him and videl put up a good fight


I still have it Videl > Chi Chi > Master Roshi > Satan

yes Videl got shot, dende had to heal her, but I believe Chi Chi could get shot as well, shes no different, Chi Chi a super woman? she cant flight or control ki all she knows is martial arts, only fights you ever see her in is against Yamcha and Goku which neither showed her true strength

Videl knows martial arts as well, plus ki control and flight
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Kblo247
Jul 22 2013, 02:29 AM
Needing to be healed from Dende isn't proof. The bullet ricochets off freaking Gohan. That's more velocity than any gun can ever produce and would kill anyone, let alone scratch a pregnant girl. Vegeta at 18k could still be cut by Yajirobe for instance, and taking BoG into account she can control ki much better as she taps I to pans without straining herself at all

And its only shown her hitting the bag mid strike in the manga. In anime filler she destroys it by kicks.


No, that's wrong.
First thing, Yajirobe has been trained by Kami, so at that point he was in the range of EoZ Goku, if not stronger; second thing, Vegeta was near at the end of the fight, after being beaten down soooo much, with his BP thus being absolutely low.
That's why Yajirobe could cut through Vegeta's armor.

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Jul 22 2013, 02:30 PM
I look at spopovitch and I don't see chi chi nor master roshi defeating him and videl put up a good fight

I still have it Videl > Chi Chi > Master Roshi > Satan

yes Videl got shot, dende had to heal her, but I believe Chi Chi could get shot as well, shes no different, Chi Chi a super woman? she cant flight or control ki all she knows is martial arts, only fights you ever see her in is against Yamcha and Goku which neither showed her true strength

Videl knows martial arts as well, plus ki control and flight


Honestly, people gave you proof on this one, but you seem to keep on ignoring them.

Videl > Roshi?

Well, as you said, "I look at Videl and I don't see" her doing something like this:

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Roshi would destroy Videl, obviously.
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No people are giving me opinions and what they believe, you should me Roshi doing the Kamehameha the ONLY ki attack he can do WOW!!!!! so can Goku, Krillin, Yamcha, Tien, Gohan, Goten and many more.....Yes Videl hasn't learned it but that doesn't mean she can't learn it, she learned how to control ki in what a month? and still nobody has giving me proof that Chi Chi or Roshi can defeat Majin Spopovitch....I place Majin Spopovitch > everyone at the 21st World Martial Arts Tournament only debate I see is maybe Goku & Master Roshi
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You should rewatch DB if you think the Kamehameha is the only attack Roshi can do. Just stop.
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Jul 22 2013, 03:09 PM
No people are giving me opinions and what they believe, you should me Roshi doing the Kamehameha the ONLY ki attack he can do WOW!!!!! so can Goku, Krillin, Yamcha, Tien, Gohan, Goten and many more.....Yes Videl hasn't learned it but that doesn't mean she can't learn it, she learned how to control ki in what a month? and still nobody has giving me proof that Chi Chi or Roshi can defeat Majin Spopovitch....I place Majin Spopovitch > everyone at the 21st World Martial Arts Tournament only debate I see is maybe Goku & Master Roshi
Stop being facetious. You haven't proven a single damn thing. All you've done is ignore everything we've said, and sound like a desperate fanboy.
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I remember you posting this, KP, and the last quote there says she's no "ordinary person". Does that mean she's not a normal human-being? What?
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Chapter: 428 (DBZ 234), P4.8, P5.1-2
Context: as Videl learns to control ki
Gohan: “That’s it, that’s it! That’s what ki is. I figured you’d catch on pretty fast Videl, since you practice martial arts.”
Videl: “Hah! Hey, can I fly yet?!”
Gohan: “Eh? That’s still no use. You’ve got to become able to freely control your ki.”

Chapter: 429 (DBZ 235), P13.6-7
Gohan narrating: “As expected, Videl was no ordinary person, and in about 10 days had become able to fly quite freely. This allowed me and Goten to finally start basic training on our own…”

She's essentially a very gifted person who can catch onto things quickly. I don't believe it's saying, "Yeah, she could be another Yamcha," but with enough training and dedication, she could be another Chi-Chi, most likely. It's just that she went into Mom Mode too soon and we never got to see that happen.
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FamousBueller
Jul 22 2013, 03:09 PM
No people are giving me opinions and what they believe
FamousBueller
Jul 22 2013, 03:09 PM
Yes Videl hasn't learned it but that doesn't mean she can't learn it
Hmm...
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The thing is that nothing puts Videl that strong really other than personal bias. From Buu Saga she might have been pretty strong and could fly well enough (which I don't think correlates to power at all), but other than that she was still shown to be just a regular human.

ChiChi and Roshi on the other hand were definitely super human. I don't really see how you could think otherwise.
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