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Super Gogeta Vs Buuhan
Topic Started: Jul 20 2013, 08:11 PM (2,608 Views)
Zenet Jul 21 2013, 09:09 PM Post #46
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Drew
Jul 21 2013, 08:36 PM
The reason that Base Gotenks (Post) is > SSJ Gotenks (Pre) is because Goten and Trunks did most of their training as Gotenks. Seeing as he's separate from them, only he would experience the gains. You could also argue that they 'mastered' the fusion technique.

Goku, Vegeta and Gohan haven't used the technique before. Even if Goku had mastered the dance, Vegeta and Gohan haven't, so it wouldn't make a difference.
I think it was something to with the difference in ratio between Base and SSJ.
Edited by Zenet, Jul 21 2013, 09:21 PM.
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+ miguelnuva Jul 21 2013, 09:29 PM Post #47
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 Are we using the weak manga Gogeta that doesn't exist or the haxed Anime Gogeta?

Manga gets 1 shotted.

Anime puts up a good fight and loses.
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+ Pyrus Jul 21 2013, 09:33 PM Post #48
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 Most people think of the Gogeta that actually existed when you bring up his name.
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Super Vegetto Jul 21 2013, 09:39 PM Post #49
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ObsessiveFanGuy
Jul 21 2013, 08:50 PM
It doesn't matter if they fuse in Base or Super Saiyan. The fusion's power will overall be the same.
Yes it doesn't matter.

The fusion of Goku and Gohan would be above Gogeta for sure no matter on which level they fuse...
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+ Pyrus Jul 21 2013, 09:48 PM Post #50
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Super Vegetto
Jul 21 2013, 09:39 PM
ObsessiveFanGuy
Jul 21 2013, 08:50 PM
It doesn't matter if they fuse in Base or Super Saiyan. The fusion's power will overall be the same.
Yes it doesn't matter.

The fusion of Goku and Gohan would be above Gogeta for sure no matter on which level they fuse...
If it mattered, why wasn't this stated in the series?
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Super Vegetto Jul 21 2013, 09:52 PM Post #51
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ObsessiveFanGuy
Jul 21 2013, 09:48 PM
Super Vegetto
Jul 21 2013, 09:39 PM
ObsessiveFanGuy
Jul 21 2013, 08:50 PM
It doesn't matter if they fuse in Base or Super Saiyan. The fusion's power will overall be the same.
Yes it doesn't matter.

The fusion of Goku and Gohan would be above Gogeta for sure no matter on which level they fuse...
If it mattered, why wasn't this stated in the series?
It's also not stated that Gotenks can turn SSJ after fusing, until we seen it...
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+ Pyrus Jul 21 2013, 10:10 PM Post #52
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Super Vegetto
Jul 21 2013, 09:52 PM
ObsessiveFanGuy
Jul 21 2013, 09:48 PM
Super Vegetto
Jul 21 2013, 09:39 PM
ObsessiveFanGuy
Jul 21 2013, 08:50 PM
It doesn't matter if they fuse in Base or Super Saiyan. The fusion's power will overall be the same.
Yes it doesn't matter.

The fusion of Goku and Gohan would be above Gogeta for sure no matter on which level they fuse...
If it mattered, why wasn't this stated in the series?
It's also not stated that Gotenks can turn SSJ after fusing, until we seen it...
It's implied that he couldn't due to Piccolo's statement. Where is it implied or stated that the form of the fusees matters?
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Super Vegetto Jul 21 2013, 10:17 PM Post #53
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ObsessiveFanGuy
Jul 21 2013, 10:10 PM
Super Vegetto
Jul 21 2013, 09:52 PM
ObsessiveFanGuy
Jul 21 2013, 09:48 PM
Super Vegetto
Jul 21 2013, 09:39 PM
ObsessiveFanGuy
Jul 21 2013, 08:50 PM
It doesn't matter if they fuse in Base or Super Saiyan. The fusion's power will overall be the same.
Yes it doesn't matter.

The fusion of Goku and Gohan would be above Gogeta for sure no matter on which level they fuse...
If it mattered, why wasn't this stated in the series?
It's also not stated that Gotenks can turn SSJ after fusing, until we seen it...
It's implied that he couldn't due to Piccolo's statement. Where is it implied or stated that the form of the fusees matters?
Sry but i don't understand the question...
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+ Pyrus Jul 21 2013, 10:21 PM Post #54
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 I don't understand what you're arguing either.
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Super Vegetto Jul 21 2013, 10:25 PM Post #55
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 The argument here is this:

You think that suppressed Gohan and Goku fusing would have the same power like Goku and Vegeta/Gogeta after fusing which clearly can't be true because of Base kids forming much greater power than SSJ kids...
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* Yu Narukami Jul 21 2013, 10:36 PM Post #56
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Izanagi!

 The Kid's gains don't really matter at all. It's Gotenks who increased his base, not them. They fused, he trained. He got the benefits of the training, they didn't.

Base Gotenks (Post) > SSJ Gotenks (Pre)
SSJ Goten (Pre) >>> Base Goten (Post)
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Super Vegetto Jul 21 2013, 10:38 PM Post #57
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Drew
Jul 21 2013, 10:36 PM
The Kid's gains don't really matter at all. It's Gotenks who increased his base, not them. They fused, he trained. He got the benefits of the training, they didn't.

Base Gotenks (Post) > SSJ Gotenks (Pre)
SSJ Goten (Pre) >>> Base Goten (Post)
It doesn't matter if Goku and Gohan never trained in formed form.

The power incrise beteween Gohan and Goku is still much greater than power formed between Goku and Vegeta.

He can't simply lost it in fusion process...


The kids found out that whole going SSJ to power up Gotenks wont matter because they can acces his power while fused...
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+ Clearin Jul 21 2013, 10:38 PM Post #58
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Super Vegetto
Jul 21 2013, 10:38 PM
Drew
Jul 21 2013, 10:36 PM
The Kid's gains don't really matter at all. It's Gotenks who increased his base, not them. They fused, he trained. He got the benefits of the training, they didn't.

Base Gotenks (Post) > SSJ Gotenks (Pre)
SSJ Goten (Pre) >>> Base Goten (Post)
It doesn't matter if Goku and Gohan never trained in formed form.

The power incrise beteween Gohan and Vegeta is still much greater than power formed between Goku and Vegeta.

He can't simply lost it in fusion process...
He loses it when he powers down so he can fuse with Goku since you need to be equal PLs to fuse.
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* Yu Narukami Jul 21 2013, 10:39 PM Post #59
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Super Vegetto
Jul 21 2013, 10:38 PM
Drew
Jul 21 2013, 10:36 PM
The Kid's gains don't really matter at all. It's Gotenks who increased his base, not them. They fused, he trained. He got the benefits of the training, they didn't.

Base Gotenks (Post) > SSJ Gotenks (Pre)
SSJ Goten (Pre) >>> Base Goten (Post)
It doesn't matter if Goku and Gohan never trained in formed form.

The power incrise beteween Gohan and Vegeta is still much greater than power formed between Goku and Vegeta.

He can't simply lost it in fusion process...
It can. Gohan has to suppress to fuse.

Potara's presented as better because it doesn't require anyone to power down, implying that all the power you suppress isn't used at all in Metamoran fusion.
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Super Vegetto Jul 21 2013, 10:39 PM Post #60
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Clearin
Jul 21 2013, 10:38 PM
Super Vegetto
Jul 21 2013, 10:38 PM
Drew
Jul 21 2013, 10:36 PM
The Kid's gains don't really matter at all. It's Gotenks who increased his base, not them. They fused, he trained. He got the benefits of the training, they didn't.

Base Gotenks (Post) > SSJ Gotenks (Pre)
SSJ Goten (Pre) >>> Base Goten (Post)
It doesn't matter if Goku and Gohan never trained in formed form.

The power incrise beteween Gohan and Vegeta is still much greater than power formed between Goku and Vegeta.

He can't simply lost it in fusion process...
He loses it when he powers down so he can fuse with Goku since you need to be equal PLs to fuse.
I find it hard to belive that he will loose and not get more power as combined fighter of two peoples...
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