RealSociedad

Jul 20 2013, 11:58 PM

Buuhan>= SSj3 Gogeta>= Buutenks> Mystic Gohan>> Super Buu ~ Gotenks SSJ3> SSJ2 Gogeta> SSJ2 Gotenks>= SSJ Gogeta> SSJ Gotenks (Post-rosat)>>> Goku SSJ3>= Kid Buu> Fat Buu.

In my eyes this is the right power chain.

Cenet

Jul 21 2013, 04:28 PM

RealSociedad

Jul 20 2013, 11:58 PM

Buuhan>= SSj3 Gogeta>= Buutenks> Mystic Gohan>> Super Buu ~ Gotenks SSJ3> SSJ2 Gogeta> SSJ2 Gotenks>= SSJ Gogeta> SSJ Gotenks (Post-rosat)>>> Goku SSJ3>= Kid Buu> Fat Buu.

In my eyes this is the right power chain.

Trunks was strong enough When first training with Vegeta, he was fast enough to land one punch on Vegeta and make him struggle, this is before they started training for the tournament. Implying the gap is much less than x2.

Bootenks was about twice as strong as Gotenks. Super Boo + Gotenks. SSJ3 Gogeta isn't touching Bootenks let alone Boohan. He would rival Ultimate Gohan at best.

ObsessiveFanGuy

Jul 21 2013, 05:26 PM

Cenet

Jul 21 2013, 04:28 PM

RealSociedad

Jul 20 2013, 11:58 PM

Buuhan>= SSj3 Gogeta>= Buutenks> Mystic Gohan>> Super Buu ~ Gotenks SSJ3> SSJ2 Gogeta> SSJ2 Gotenks>= SSJ Gogeta> SSJ Gotenks (Post-rosat)>>> Goku SSJ3>= Kid Buu> Fat Buu.

In my eyes this is the right power chain.

Trunks was strong enough When first training with Vegeta, he was fast enough to land one punch on Vegeta and make him struggle, this is before they started training for the tournament. Implying the gap is much less than x2.

Bootenks was about twice as strong as Gotenks. Super Boo + Gotenks. SSJ3 Gogeta isn't touching Bootenks let alone Boohan. He would rival Ultimate Gohan at best.

Goku suggested using the Fusion Dance with Gohan against Gotenks-Boo, and the only contradiction put forth was Elder Kaioshin saying they wouldn't be given the time to perform it - this was not a strength contradiction, only a circumstantial contradiction. In the Japanese anime, Goku said they'd "definitely" win if they did that.

The real contradiction would be Gotenks-Boo stating that the fusion wouldn't be enough to beat him, but he'd stop it just in case, instilling a bit of doubt in his words. The best thing we could do is split the difference and put Gogeta a little stronger than Boo, but not by enough to easily beat him; it'd more than likely be a tough fight.

Gohan-Boo would slaughter Gogeta, though.

Super Vegetto

Jul 21 2013, 05:36 PM

ObsessiveFanGuy

Jul 21 2013, 05:26 PM

Cenet

Jul 21 2013, 04:28 PM

RealSociedad

Jul 20 2013, 11:58 PM

Buuhan>= SSj3 Gogeta>= Buutenks> Mystic Gohan>> Super Buu ~ Gotenks SSJ3> SSJ2 Gogeta> SSJ2 Gotenks>= SSJ Gogeta> SSJ Gotenks (Post-rosat)>>> Goku SSJ3>= Kid Buu> Fat Buu.

In my eyes this is the right power chain.

Trunks was strong enough When first training with Vegeta, he was fast enough to land one punch on Vegeta and make him struggle, this is before they started training for the tournament. Implying the gap is much less than x2.

Bootenks was about twice as strong as Gotenks. Super Boo + Gotenks. SSJ3 Gogeta isn't touching Bootenks let alone Boohan. He would rival Ultimate Gohan at best.

Goku suggested using the Fusion Dance with Gohan against Gotenks-Boo, and the only contradiction put forth was Elder Kaioshin saying they wouldn't be given the time to perform it - this was not a strength contradiction, only a circumstantial contradiction. In the Japanese anime, Goku said they'd "definitely" win if they did that.

The real contradiction would be Gotenks-Boo stating that the fusion wouldn't be enough to beat him, but he'd stop it just in case, instilling a bit of doubt in his words. The best thing we could do is split the difference and put Gogeta a little stronger than Boo, but not by enough to easily beat him; it'd more than likely be a tough fight.

Gohan-Boo would slaughter Gogeta, though.

There is no much diffrence between Boohan and Bootenks.

If you whant to put SSJ3 Gogeta above Bootenks, you can only get him on pair with Boohan or higher which contradicts with whole Boohan statment.


With Goku/Gohan fusing is whole diffrent case because of Gohan who is far superior to any unfused character...

ObsessiveFanGuy

Jul 21 2013, 05:49 PM

Super Vegetto

Jul 21 2013, 05:36 PM

ObsessiveFanGuy

Jul 21 2013, 05:26 PM

Cenet

Jul 21 2013, 04:28 PM

RealSociedad

Jul 20 2013, 11:58 PM

Buuhan>= SSj3 Gogeta>= Buutenks> Mystic Gohan>> Super Buu ~ Gotenks SSJ3> SSJ2 Gogeta> SSJ2 Gotenks>= SSJ Gogeta> SSJ Gotenks (Post-rosat)>>> Goku SSJ3>= Kid Buu> Fat Buu.

In my eyes this is the right power chain.

Trunks was strong enough When first training with Vegeta, he was fast enough to land one punch on Vegeta and make him struggle, this is before they started training for the tournament. Implying the gap is much less than x2.

Bootenks was about twice as strong as Gotenks. Super Boo + Gotenks. SSJ3 Gogeta isn't touching Bootenks let alone Boohan. He would rival Ultimate Gohan at best.

Goku suggested using the Fusion Dance with Gohan against Gotenks-Boo, and the only contradiction put forth was Elder Kaioshin saying they wouldn't be given the time to perform it - this was not a strength contradiction, only a circumstantial contradiction. In the Japanese anime, Goku said they'd "definitely" win if they did that.

The real contradiction would be Gotenks-Boo stating that the fusion wouldn't be enough to beat him, but he'd stop it just in case, instilling a bit of doubt in his words. The best thing we could do is split the difference and put Gogeta a little stronger than Boo, but not by enough to easily beat him; it'd more than likely be a tough fight.

Gohan-Boo would slaughter Gogeta, though.

There is no much diffrence between Boohan and Bootenks.

If you whant to put SSJ3 Gogeta above Bootenks, you can only get him on pair with Boohan or higher which contradicts with whole Boohan statment.


With Goku/Gohan fusing is whole diffrent case because of Gohan who is far superior to any unfused character...

There can be plenty of difference between the two Boos. It all depends on the gap you have between Gotenks and Gohan. If it's a bigger gap, then there will be a bigger gap between the two respective Boos. You only run into a problem if you have a small(er) gap, otherwise it works just fine.

Evil Boo - 1
Gotenks - 1.1
Gohan - 1.5
Bootenks - 2.1
Gogeta - 2.25
Boohan - 2.5

It just depends.

Super Vegetto

Jul 21 2013, 05:56 PM

ObsessiveFanGuy

Jul 21 2013, 05:49 PM

Super Vegetto

Jul 21 2013, 05:36 PM

ObsessiveFanGuy

Jul 21 2013, 05:26 PM

Cenet

Jul 21 2013, 04:28 PM

RealSociedad

Jul 20 2013, 11:58 PM

Buuhan>= SSj3 Gogeta>= Buutenks> Mystic Gohan>> Super Buu ~ Gotenks SSJ3> SSJ2 Gogeta> SSJ2 Gotenks>= SSJ Gogeta> SSJ Gotenks (Post-rosat)>>> Goku SSJ3>= Kid Buu> Fat Buu.

In my eyes this is the right power chain.

Trunks was strong enough When first training with Vegeta, he was fast enough to land one punch on Vegeta and make him struggle, this is before they started training for the tournament. Implying the gap is much less than x2.

Bootenks was about twice as strong as Gotenks. Super Boo + Gotenks. SSJ3 Gogeta isn't touching Bootenks let alone Boohan. He would rival Ultimate Gohan at best.

Goku suggested using the Fusion Dance with Gohan against Gotenks-Boo, and the only contradiction put forth was Elder Kaioshin saying they wouldn't be given the time to perform it - this was not a strength contradiction, only a circumstantial contradiction. In the Japanese anime, Goku said they'd "definitely" win if they did that.

The real contradiction would be Gotenks-Boo stating that the fusion wouldn't be enough to beat him, but he'd stop it just in case, instilling a bit of doubt in his words. The best thing we could do is split the difference and put Gogeta a little stronger than Boo, but not by enough to easily beat him; it'd more than likely be a tough fight.

Gohan-Boo would slaughter Gogeta, though.

There is no much diffrence between Boohan and Bootenks.

If you whant to put SSJ3 Gogeta above Bootenks, you can only get him on pair with Boohan or higher which contradicts with whole Boohan statment.


With Goku/Gohan fusing is whole diffrent case because of Gohan who is far superior to any unfused character...

There can be plenty of difference between the two Boos. It all depends on the gap you have between Gotenks and Gohan. If it's a bigger gap, then there will be a bigger gap between the two respective Boos. You only run into a problem if you have a small(er) gap, otherwise it works just fine.

Evil Boo - 1
Gotenks - 1.1
Gohan - 1.5
Bootenks - 2.1
Gogeta - 2.25
Boohan - 2.5

It just depends.

It's because of Trunks statment where he states that Gotenks - Gohan, but Goten corrects him saying that Gohan was stronger where he replies with just a little.

Gohan later even lets Gotenks to fight Super Boo after seeing fusion (and ofc sencing his power).

ObsessiveFanGuy

Jul 21 2013, 06:01 PM

Super Vegetto

Jul 21 2013, 05:56 PM

ObsessiveFanGuy

Jul 21 2013, 05:49 PM

Super Vegetto

Jul 21 2013, 05:36 PM

ObsessiveFanGuy

Jul 21 2013, 05:26 PM

Cenet

Jul 21 2013, 04:28 PM

RealSociedad

Jul 20 2013, 11:58 PM

Buuhan>= SSj3 Gogeta>= Buutenks> Mystic Gohan>> Super Buu ~ Gotenks SSJ3> SSJ2 Gogeta> SSJ2 Gotenks>= SSJ Gogeta> SSJ Gotenks (Post-rosat)>>> Goku SSJ3>= Kid Buu> Fat Buu.

In my eyes this is the right power chain.

Trunks was strong enough When first training with Vegeta, he was fast enough to land one punch on Vegeta and make him struggle, this is before they started training for the tournament. Implying the gap is much less than x2.

Bootenks was about twice as strong as Gotenks. Super Boo + Gotenks. SSJ3 Gogeta isn't touching Bootenks let alone Boohan. He would rival Ultimate Gohan at best.

Goku suggested using the Fusion Dance with Gohan against Gotenks-Boo, and the only contradiction put forth was Elder Kaioshin saying they wouldn't be given the time to perform it - this was not a strength contradiction, only a circumstantial contradiction. In the Japanese anime, Goku said they'd "definitely" win if they did that.

The real contradiction would be Gotenks-Boo stating that the fusion wouldn't be enough to beat him, but he'd stop it just in case, instilling a bit of doubt in his words. The best thing we could do is split the difference and put Gogeta a little stronger than Boo, but not by enough to easily beat him; it'd more than likely be a tough fight.

Gohan-Boo would slaughter Gogeta, though.

There is no much diffrence between Boohan and Bootenks.

If you whant to put SSJ3 Gogeta above Bootenks, you can only get him on pair with Boohan or higher which contradicts with whole Boohan statment.


With Goku/Gohan fusing is whole diffrent case because of Gohan who is far superior to any unfused character...

There can be plenty of difference between the two Boos. It all depends on the gap you have between Gotenks and Gohan. If it's a bigger gap, then there will be a bigger gap between the two respective Boos. You only run into a problem if you have a small(er) gap, otherwise it works just fine.

Evil Boo - 1
Gotenks - 1.1
Gohan - 1.5
Bootenks - 2.1
Gogeta - 2.25
Boohan - 2.5

It just depends.

It's because of Trunks statment where he states that Gotenks - Gohan, but Goten corrects him saying that Gohan was stronger where he replies with just a little.

Gohan later even lets Gotenks to fight Super Boo after seeing fusion (and ofc sencing his power).

Yes, Gohan allowing Gotenks to fight again doesn't indicate a small gap between them, though. It indicates that Gohan has confidence in Gotenks to win, and it lines up with what we saw at the end of Gotenks's fight with Boo.

Trunks's statement can be somewhat dismissed.

Super Vegetto

Jul 21 2013, 07:24 PM

ObsessiveFanGuy

Jul 21 2013, 06:01 PM

Super Vegetto

Jul 21 2013, 05:56 PM

ObsessiveFanGuy

Jul 21 2013, 05:49 PM

Super Vegetto

Jul 21 2013, 05:36 PM

ObsessiveFanGuy

Jul 21 2013, 05:26 PM

Cenet

Jul 21 2013, 04:28 PM

RealSociedad

Jul 20 2013, 11:58 PM

Buuhan>= SSj3 Gogeta>= Buutenks> Mystic Gohan>> Super Buu ~ Gotenks SSJ3> SSJ2 Gogeta> SSJ2 Gotenks>= SSJ Gogeta> SSJ Gotenks (Post-rosat)>>> Goku SSJ3>= Kid Buu> Fat Buu.

In my eyes this is the right power chain.

Trunks was strong enough When first training with Vegeta, he was fast enough to land one punch on Vegeta and make him struggle, this is before they started training for the tournament. Implying the gap is much less than x2.

Bootenks was about twice as strong as Gotenks. Super Boo + Gotenks. SSJ3 Gogeta isn't touching Bootenks let alone Boohan. He would rival Ultimate Gohan at best.

Goku suggested using the Fusion Dance with Gohan against Gotenks-Boo, and the only contradiction put forth was Elder Kaioshin saying they wouldn't be given the time to perform it - this was not a strength contradiction, only a circumstantial contradiction. In the Japanese anime, Goku said they'd "definitely" win if they did that.

The real contradiction would be Gotenks-Boo stating that the fusion wouldn't be enough to beat him, but he'd stop it just in case, instilling a bit of doubt in his words. The best thing we could do is split the difference and put Gogeta a little stronger than Boo, but not by enough to easily beat him; it'd more than likely be a tough fight.

Gohan-Boo would slaughter Gogeta, though.

There is no much diffrence between Boohan and Bootenks.

If you whant to put SSJ3 Gogeta above Bootenks, you can only get him on pair with Boohan or higher which contradicts with whole Boohan statment.


With Goku/Gohan fusing is whole diffrent case because of Gohan who is far superior to any unfused character...

There can be plenty of difference between the two Boos. It all depends on the gap you have between Gotenks and Gohan. If it's a bigger gap, then there will be a bigger gap between the two respective Boos. You only run into a problem if you have a small(er) gap, otherwise it works just fine.

Evil Boo - 1
Gotenks - 1.1
Gohan - 1.5
Bootenks - 2.1
Gogeta - 2.25
Boohan - 2.5

It just depends.

It's because of Trunks statment where he states that Gotenks - Gohan, but Goten corrects him saying that Gohan was stronger where he replies with just a little.

Gohan later even lets Gotenks to fight Super Boo after seeing fusion (and ofc sencing his power).

Yes, Gohan allowing Gotenks to fight again doesn't indicate a small gap between them, though. It indicates that Gohan has confidence in Gotenks to win, and it lines up with what we saw at the end of Gotenks's fight with Boo.

Trunks's statement can be somewhat dismissed.

The whole point why Gotenks started dominate in end is because he was preparing match for Gohan.

Gohan was sitting for a reason, not because Gotenks couldn't finish Boo in the begining of fight.


I say this simply because SSJ3 Gogeta can't be anywhere near Bootenks.

He is highest equal to Gohan or above him, but Bootenks/Boohan and Super Vegetto are complitly diffrent levels from any other character in manga...

Super Vegetto

Jul 21 2013, 07:47 PM

Goku was planing to use fusion dance with Gohan, not Vegeta.

There is no way that Gogeta should be anywhere above Gotenks by wide margin, going by manga.

Also Goten and Trunks pushed Gotenks trough another level, but just for sake of it i have Gogeta above Gotenks.


The Toei is whole diffrent case. They belive that anything formed with Goku > Goku and everyone else, so only than SSJ3 Gogeta would be above Bootenks...

Super Vegetto

Jul 21 2013, 07:47 PM

Goku was planing to use fusion dance with Gohan, not Vegeta.

There is no way that Gogeta should be anywhere above Gotenks by wide margin, going by manga.

Also Goten and Trunks pushed Gotenks trough another level, but just for sake of it i have Gogeta above Gotenks.


The Toei is whole diffrent case. They belive that anything formed with Goku > Goku and everyone else, so only than SSJ3 Gogeta would be above Bootenks...