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| SSjin3 Gohan (Post Zeta-Sword) vs Janemba (Transformed) | |
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| SSJ | Jul 21 2013, 04:41 AM Post #46 |
 
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I honestly don't even remember the quote. Do you know if you can post it? |
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| + Pyrus | Jul 21 2013, 04:46 AM Post #47 |
 
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It's supposed to be here. Where is it? |
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| + Havoc_Wreaker | Jul 21 2013, 05:33 AM Post #48 |
Popcorn
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On my phone sorry someone else will have to And kp i swear to god u get drunk at night and post random s*** U little devil u |
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| Sam | Jul 21 2013, 07:30 AM Post #49 |
It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash.
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Gohan would have a chance providing he has a devastating attack akin to what Vegeta uses. And his energy strain didn't drag him down too fast due to being in SSj3. And he had the Zeta sword as well to counteract Janemba's sword, maybe, just maybe, he has a shot. But, most days of the week, I'm sticking to Janemba. |
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| + Clearin | Jul 21 2013, 01:01 PM Post #50 |
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Actually even disregarding the quote saying Janemba is stronger it still wouldn't be spam because nothing actually says which of the two is stronger. If Goku was haxed in movie 12 then there would be a chance Janemba is stronger with or without any evidence. It's just that the only quote directly comparing the two puts Janemba above, basically just confirming Goku was haxed. But yeah it's far from spam anyway.
"The phantom majin Hildegarn is a formidable opponent capable of trading blows evenly with even Super Saiyan 3 Goku, but since Janenba from the previous work "The Rebirth of Fusion!! Goku and Vegeta" could beat back Super Saiyan 3 Goku, strength-wise this makes him No.2 out of the movie series enemies." |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jul 21 2013, 01:21 PM Post #51 |
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So, M12 SSJ3 Goku is >> Ultimate Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks? |
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Jul 21 2013, 01:29 PM Post #52 |
 
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The way Toei see it, yes... |
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| + Clearin | Jul 21 2013, 01:32 PM Post #53 |
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Assuming it's haxed Goku, the yes. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jul 21 2013, 01:37 PM Post #54 |
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Izanagi!
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So does Toei have some ridiculously hax fusion multiplier just for Goku fusions? M12 SSJ3 Goku >> Ultimate Gohan M12 SSJ2 Vegeta ~ Canon SSJ2 Vegeta M12 SSJ Gogeta >>>/>>>> Ultimate Gohan It just doesn't make any sense at all |
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| + Clearin | Jul 21 2013, 01:46 PM Post #55 |
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I think the implication was that Vegetai was haxed too, like in the Animay. We don't know if he was haxed or not in movie 13 though he did block the flame breath so maybe he was. Edit: And he hurt Hirudegarn with his initial blast. So yes I assume he was definitially haxed in movie 13, as well as the Anime, so why not movie 12 too? Or yes, Gogeta himself is just haxed. Take your pick. Edited by Clearin, Jul 21 2013, 01:49 PM.
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Jul 21 2013, 01:51 PM Post #56 |
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Its like this: When Goku is alive he is the strongest, and Vegeta following him at second place. When Goku is dead, Gohan is the strongest and Vegeta follows him as second. In Toei world Vegeta will always be at second place when it comes to strenght... |
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| SSJ | Jul 21 2013, 01:56 PM Post #57 |
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That is madness because Gogeta can only be around 2x stronger than Gotenks. Canon Vegeta ~ M12 Vegeta is the reason for this. Gogeta is not haxed at all... |
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| EMIYA | Jul 21 2013, 02:00 PM Post #58 |
"I am the bone of my sword."
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The way I remember, it was: SSJ3 Goku>~Second Form Hirudengard>SSJ3 Gotenks>First Form Hirudengard>SSj2 Vegeta>~Hirudengard Seperated~Ultimate Gohan. Yes, not only is SSj3 Gotenks vastly above Gohan, but I even think Vegeta did more against first form Hirudengard than Gohan did. He actually got a few shots off and blocked some of Hild's attacks. So yes, Gohan was weak as hell. Goku's not haxed, Gohan's just nerfed as Hell, he's doing no better than Vegeta. Arguably worst at that! Otherwise not only is Goku haxed, but so is Gotenks and Vegeta. I seriously doubt Toei thought Goku was haxed, though they certainly made him stronger than usual. They probably just looked at movie 12 said "Whoa man! This Janemba is powerful he beat up SSj3 Goku badly, SSj3 Goku didn't have that much trouble with Hildegarn" and didn't give a lick on what Gohan and Gotenks were doing. All that mattered was Goku and thus we got Movie 13 Goku, the epitome of Toei's messed up excuse of Goku fan w***ing. |
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| + Clearin | Jul 21 2013, 02:04 PM Post #59 |
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You're acting like everything in M12 must be the same as their canon strength when really nothing says this. Vegeta might be haxed, Gogeta might be haxed or both might be haxed. Nothing really says otherwise. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jul 21 2013, 02:04 PM Post #60 |
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Izanagi!
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Doesn't Vegeta literally state that he couldn't train because he didn't have a body? |
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