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SSjin3 Gohan (Post Zeta-Sword) vs Janemba (Transformed)
Topic Started: Jul 19 2013, 11:32 PM (4,094 Views)
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Jul 20 2013, 08:08 PM
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Jul 20 2013, 07:54 PM
Janemba managed to completely overpower Super Saiyan 3 with one simple ki blast.


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I sure hope you don't intend to say that initial little ki blast that Janemba threw was an indicator that Janemba>>>SSj3 Goku. The mouth blast afterwards was a fairly good indicator of how powerful Janemba was, but that ki blast prior was hardly an indicator of Janemba being massively over SSj3 Goku.
Well he seemed pretty hurt and never recuperate after that ki attack. The mouth blast was an overkill eventually reverting him back to Base.
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I don't buy into Super Janemba>Hirudegarn as i find it absolutely laughable.

Seeing As how I have Gogeta being around 2x Gotenks and seeing Gogeta absolutely tank Janemba im going to say that SSJ3 Gohan loses this one.
This would probably be my chain

SSJ Gogeta>>SSj Gotenks>FP Super Janemba>>SSJ3 Gohan (post zeta)>>Base Gotenks (Post)>>>SSJ Gotenks (pre)>SSJ3 Goku
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Jul 20 2013, 06:42 PM
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Jul 20 2013, 06:40 PM
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Jul 20 2013, 06:24 PM
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Jul 20 2013, 02:44 PM
SSJ3 Zeta Gohan loses badly. Goku was the same haxed version from the anime who was stronger than Ultimate Gohan.

Upon sensing the power of Janemba in his first form, Goku says that it is the strongest power he has ever felt. Given that he speaks of Majin Buu later, this indicates that Janemba in his first form is at above Majin Boo. The gap between Majin Boo and Goku wasn't that big. Meaning Goku was haxed in movie 12 since he overpowered Fat Janemba like nothing.

According to the Toei website for the Dragon Ball/Dragon Ball Z movies, Super Janemba is stronger than Hirudegarn, since Hirudegarn was capable of trading blows evenly with Super Saiyan 3 Goku while Super Janemba was stronger.

Super Janemba > > Boohan > > Bootenks > > Ultimate Gohan > > > Super Boo > > > > > SSJ Gotenks (Post) > > > > > SSJ3 Gohan (Post) Zeta)
I hope you realize that M12 was released before Buuhan existed and that goku compared Fat Janemba with fat buu not with another buu version, according to Takao Koyama the one main writter of the movies the last villain is always stronger than the last one.
Which part was that said?
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In handling the scripts for the films, what I always worried about each time was the problem of what to do about the opponent Goku fights against. That’s because, at the very least, they had to be stronger than [the ones from] the previous movie.
After much hard work, I was unable to come up with an opponent stronger than Broli, and fell into a rut where I made him appear three times.


Of course he seems to forget about Bojack so the quote isn't the most reliable thing ever...

Toei have said Janemba > Hirudegarn so it's about as canon as you can get for the movies.
He is saying that he had a hard time finding someone after Broly, he is the main writer of the movies and knows about the movie than toei, besides TOEI is wrong, Hirudegarn only hitted goku once and was already weakened as trunks cut his tail and it doesn't mention that goku beated him with a haxed tecnique, Hirudegarn>>>>>>>>Super Janemba
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Janemba charges Goku.
He throws a kick and Goku dodges.
Goku throws a kick and Janemba blocks it.
Janemba tosses his tail at Goku but Goku dodges and retaliates with a kick to Janemba's face.
Janemba grabs Goku's foot and spins him around, but Goku counters with a kick to the side of Janemba's head.
Goku throws a Ki blast but Janemba transports it so that it explodes right beside Goku, who is tossed several feet by the explosion.
Goku recovers and charges Janemba.
Goku knees Janemba in the chin.
Goku kicks Janemba in the face.
Janemba seems stunned at this point.
Goku tries smashing a Ki blast into Janemba's face but Janemba teleports away.
Janemba teleports back beside Goku and jams a Ki blast into his side, pushing him a few feet away.

That's when the fight begins to seriously turn in Janemba's favor. He's smiling after hitting Goku with that last attack while Goku isn't looking too good. Continuing on...

Janemba hits Goku with a mouth blast.
Goku is steaming from the attack, which pushed him several feet. He's visibly seething.
Janemba forms his sword and slashes at Goku with it, managing a small hit.
Janemba slashes at Goku again but Goku dodges.
Goku comes back with a Ki blast.
Janemba slices the blast in half, with half of it hitting him in the obliques. He cries out in pain, but right after we see him smiling in the fire.
Janemba slashes several more times as Goku flees.

That's basically the end of the fight.
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He is saying that he had a hard time finding someone after Broly, he is the main writer of the movies and knows about the movie than toei, besides TOEI is wrong, Hirudegarn only hitted goku once and was already weakened as trunks cut his tail and it doesn't mention that goku beated him with a haxed tecnique, Hirudegarn>>>>>>>>Super Janemba

Sorry going with the creators word on this one over fan word. The only requirements for Janemba > Hirudegarn is haxing Goku in movie 12 which is Toei's style anyway.
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Yeah i agree with clearin, like i said before gohan isnt all that strong

This gohan is weaker then u gohan. And hilds alnost one shoted him and jams is even stronger then hilds so......
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Lol Janemba > Hirudegarn
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Ssj 2 i dont get why u need to spam when its not needed or wanted we have a place for that

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Because the topic of Janemba > Hirudegarn is very redundant, and spam in itself.
Edited by SSJ, Jul 21 2013, 04:12 AM.
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M13 Gohan is an anomaly.
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No evidence.
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No evidence, guess a dirwct statment from the creators isnt evidence, and what ur telling me is that is fine to troll if the topics a troll topic regardless the section. Thats a bad excuse bro.
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Sigh. We've been through this before. I can't seem to find the topic we just discussed this in, so I will leave it at this.
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Hirudegarn is stronger than Janemba, though.
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I remember, but the fact is there is a quote and several.people agree with it and several ignore it

So there is evidence and doesnt matter if it doesnt make sense its from the creators

And dont tell me of could have been a random person at toei

Thats conjecture and if u believe that the wording is wrong.and is reffering to the other way around i believe herms himself the dude that translated for us leaned towards the idea jams >hilds
Is what rhe quote implied.
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