What happens in this situation

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What happens in this situation
Tweet Topic Started: Jul 19 2013, 02:04 AM (1,496 Views)
~~Super Vegetto~~	Jul 19 2013, 05:05 PM Post #16
Posts: 3,460 Group: Suspended Member #7,405 Joined: March 6, 2012	Clearin Jul 19 2013, 04:35 PM Super Vegetto Jul 19 2013, 03:29 PM Clearin Jul 19 2013, 01:08 PM It would sort of be the prankers fault. People's will to survive is extremely powerful and they don't have time to think logically about a lot of things, so putting someone in a (what they think is a) life threatening situation like that, and continuing to do so after being stopped, should really not expect the prankee to just stand there and accept his fate. On court you can't say that you got scared and that's why you killed. No one would buy that story... I'm not saying it would get you out of trouble, I'm only saying it's pretty dumb to pull a prank on someone that makes them think they're in a life threatening situation because the humans will to survive is strong, and you should expect them to make rash decisions. The problem is because this zombie guy didn't done anything to guy that warned him. It's as if some random person is walking on street and you say that you will hurt him if he get's closer to you. You simply have no right to hurt or kill him because you don't know what is that guy up too. No one ever think's about killing the guy that looks treat to you. You can hurt him because that is in out nature to protects ourself, but killing in this category only goes if it happend in accident.
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* Yu Narukami	Jul 19 2013, 05:10 PM Post #17
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Super Vegetto Jul 19 2013, 05:05 PM Clearin Jul 19 2013, 04:35 PM Super Vegetto Jul 19 2013, 03:29 PM Clearin Jul 19 2013, 01:08 PM It would sort of be the prankers fault. People's will to survive is extremely powerful and they don't have time to think logically about a lot of things, so putting someone in a (what they think is a) life threatening situation like that, and continuing to do so after being stopped, should really not expect the prankee to just stand there and accept his fate. On court you can't say that you got scared and that's why you killed. No one would buy that story... I'm not saying it would get you out of trouble, I'm only saying it's pretty dumb to pull a prank on someone that makes them think they're in a life threatening situation because the humans will to survive is strong, and you should expect them to make rash decisions. The problem is because this zombie guy didn't done anything to guy that warned him. It's as if some random person is walking on street and you say that you will hurt him if he get's closer to you. You simply have no right to hurt or kill him because you don't know what is that guy up too. No one ever think's about killing the guy that looks treat to you. You can hurt him because that is in out nature to protects ourself, but killing in this category only goes if it happend in accident. He did, though. Anyone faced with that would feel fear. Making someone feel scared means that you're potentially putting them in a situation where they're not in their right mind



~~Super Vegetto~~	Jul 19 2013, 05:22 PM Post #18
Posts: 3,460 Group: Suspended Member #7,405 Joined: March 6, 2012	But he killed him with the first hit. He didn't tryed to protect himself and to see if Zombie guy has any intention. He went instantly for kill. That's the whole point. He wasn't in his home. He entered his office where probably many peoples could enter, without him knowing them. That's not World War Z where zombies look alike should be killed without thinking...
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+ Clearin	Jul 19 2013, 05:26 PM Post #19
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Super Vegetto Jul 19 2013, 05:22 PM But he killed him with the first hit. He didn't tryed to protect himself and to see if Zombie guy has any intention. He went instantly for kill. That's the whole point. He wasn't in his home. He entered his office where probably many peoples could enter, without him knowing them. That's not World War Z where zombies look alike should be killed without thinking... Pelador's example specifically mentioned that the person being pranked is in their room. Quote: A person is sitting in their room, minding their own business. Then a zombie walks in. Person stands and says to the zombie. If you are a person trying to play a prank on me please declare it now or I will have to destroy you. I won't give you another warning. Zombie continues to advance towards person. Person grabs scissors on his desk and stabs zombie in the head, killing it instantly. Turns out it was a person playing a prank after all.



+ Pelador	Jul 19 2013, 05:28 PM Post #20
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	I didn't say office. I should have made this more clear. The person was at in their room, minding their own business. Very convincing looking zombie walks around the corner. He gets a warning just to be sure it's a real person but the zombie doesn't listen. Somebody dressed like a zombie coming towards me would be the same as somebody coming at me with a knife. It's impossible to tell what their intention is. I can't tell if they are playing around or a real threat.
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~~Super Vegetto~~	Jul 19 2013, 05:29 PM Post #21
Posts: 3,460 Group: Suspended Member #7,405 Joined: March 6, 2012	LOL how did i missed that. Well that changes things. He was in your house without permission and you could say that he tryed to attack your, which complitly changes things in your favor.
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Goddess Ultimecia	Jul 19 2013, 06:01 PM Post #22
Posts: 10,145 Group: RP Moderator Member #8,473 Joined: October 26, 2012 Gender Male Country None	I would say you would be scot free because 1. The person entered your house without you knowing 2.After giving a clear warning to stop it. The person continues to come after you. The person that died could be charged with trespassing anyway because they illegally entered your house. If he wasn't dead of course.. Edited by Goddess Ultimecia, Jul 19 2013, 06:01 PM.
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EMIYA	Jul 19 2013, 06:08 PM Post #23
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	No jury in their right mind is going to accept "Zombie" as an excuse. You might as well say "I was in my room when **ing Godzilla attacked! He shrunk down in size and came in the into the door! I asked if he was fake but he only roared so I shot him! But it was just a prank." Basically if you try to pull a zombie, you're **eed. No jury, big or small is ever going to believe that. You'll need to somehow prove that that some guy came into your house, without permission and legitimately offering a threat to your life then you have no chance. It's either: A.) You pull the zombie point and you're seen as a nutjob who needs to go the asylum. B.) Manslaughter (If your lucky) C.) First Degree Murder.



~~Coolest~~	Jul 19 2013, 10:22 PM Post #24
Posts: 1,304 Group: Banned Member #8,885 Joined: January 18, 2013 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	You killed someone who was posing a joke at you. No Jury would accept your Zombie explanation.



+ Pelador	Jul 19 2013, 10:27 PM Post #25
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Why would the zombie get stabbed if the person didn't believe it was real? Lets change this up a bit and say the stabber was me. I have a history of hearing voices in my head and seeing things which apparently weren't really there. I'm also prone to believing in things which others don't, including zombies. It is very likely that if the makeup was good enough, I personally would be fooled into thinking the zombie was real. Would this change anything?
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~~Coolest~~	Jul 19 2013, 10:30 PM Post #26
Posts: 1,304 Group: Banned Member #8,885 Joined: January 18, 2013 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	You'd get off on an insanity plea.



+ Pelador	Jul 19 2013, 10:38 PM Post #27
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	I disagree. To be insane would mean I'd have to be a raving lunatic, probably unfit to even go to court. The fact that I gave a warning would throw such a plea out of the window. Besides, I'd hardly call being committed to an insane asylum getting off. They probably have less freedom than prison and could possibly be more dangerous or unpleasant.
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~~Coolest~~	Jul 19 2013, 10:47 PM Post #28
Posts: 1,304 Group: Banned Member #8,885 Joined: January 18, 2013 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	...no. People get off on insanity pleas ALL the time, even people who aren't insane. It's a lawyer gimmick.



+ Pelador	Jul 19 2013, 10:57 PM Post #29
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insanity_defense It's not a gimmick and it definitely doesn't get you off. Besides as I said before, giving the person a warning means I couldn't possibly hope to plead insanity. I think this might be what would actually happen to a person such as myself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diminished_responsibility_in_English_law
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~~Coolest~~	Jul 19 2013, 11:04 PM Post #30
Posts: 1,304 Group: Banned Member #8,885 Joined: January 18, 2013 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	Are you really linking Wikipedia in a debate?



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