King Cold Final form 100% Vs Android 16

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King Cold Final form 100% Vs Android 16
Tweet Topic Started: Jul 17 2013, 09:54 AM (2,186 Views)
RealSociedad	Jul 17 2013, 09:54 AM Post #1
Posts: 1,352 Group: Member Member #9,575 Joined: June 4, 2013 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	What if he could transform and went 100% Could he beat Android 16?



+ Clearin	Jul 17 2013, 04:58 PM Post #2
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	King Cold is stated to be weaker than Freeza. Freeza is weaker than Android 16. Yeah...



Augahn	Jul 17 2013, 08:26 PM Post #3
Astrian Posts: 499 Group: Duplicate Member #9,505 Joined: May 17, 2013 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z	He was weak compared to Frieza in 2nd form. Theres no indication of his power if he were to reach maximum. He could horribly out shadow Frieza. We don't know



+ Pyrus	Jul 17 2013, 08:43 PM Post #4
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	We do know. We've known since the manga came out.
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Wolf	Jul 17 2013, 08:48 PM Post #5
Shadow Realm > Posts: 5,538 Group: Street Fighter Member #6,410 Joined: June 27, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country South Africa Favourite Anime Berserk What Browser do you use? 18+ Favourite Manga Berserk	16 would stomp his brains out.
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+ Kyouks	Jul 17 2013, 08:54 PM Post #6
Posts: 10,305 Group: Elite Member Member #8,102 Joined: August 11, 2012 Gender Other Country South Africa Favourite Anime Hentai What Browser do you use? The best one Favourite Manga They all suck	Shunheng Jul 17 2013, 08:26 PM He was weak compared to Frieza in 2nd form. Theres no indication of his power if he were to reach maximum. He could horribly out shadow Frieza. We don't know http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8779083&t=8421946 http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8779123&t=8421946



POOHEAD189	Jul 17 2013, 08:56 PM Post #7
Posts: 3,186 Group: Member Member #4,559 Joined: October 30, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z Favourite Manga Dragonball	I think no matter what theory you subscribe to, whether he was in his 2nd form or his final form when we see him, Android 16 is too strong for him.
	Tha gaol agam ort. <3


+ Clearin	Jul 17 2013, 09:04 PM Post #8
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Once again this isn't about whether King Cold had more forms or not. Point is Freeza is specifically stated to be the stronger of the two. I don't care if you have King Cold transforming 100 times, as long as you have him weaker than Freeza as is straight out told to us.



+ Pyrus	Jul 17 2013, 09:06 PM Post #9
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Hey, that's what I always say.^
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POOHEAD189	Jul 17 2013, 09:11 PM Post #10
Posts: 3,186 Group: Member Member #4,559 Joined: October 30, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z Favourite Manga Dragonball	That's incredibly close minded. He was stated to be weaker, but if that was indeed his 2nd form, then that statement has... ahem NOTHING to do with his strength if he could transform. That's like saying 1st form Freiza was weaker than Piccolo w/ Nail, therefore his final form must be weaker as well. Also, his transforming has nothing to do with this thread anyway. If you think he can transform more, then say if you think he is strong enough. If not, then say if you think he is strong enough. Edited by POOHEAD189, Jul 17 2013, 09:12 PM.
	Tha gaol agam ort. <3


+ Clearin	Jul 17 2013, 09:19 PM Post #11
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	POOHEAD189 Jul 17 2013, 09:11 PM That's incredibly close minded. He was stated to be weaker, but if that was indeed his 2nd form, then that statement has... ahem NOTHING to do with his strength if he could transform. That's like saying 1st form Freiza was weaker than Piccolo w/ Nail, therefore his final form must be weaker as well. Also, his transforming has nothing to do with this thread anyway. If you think he can transform more, then say if you think he is strong enough. If not, then say if you think he is strong enough. You seem to be confused. Freeza stated multiple times that he was the strongest in the universe. No ifs, ands or buts. He has said this statement directly in front of King Cold with absolutely no indication he was lying. He didn't say "I am the strongest in the universe...until father transforms", he was speaking in general, not using suppressed power in his statement. Technically even Krillin can say "I'm the strongest in the universe...as long as everyone suppresses to a power below mine". The only people not included in Freeza's statement were powers he had never seen, so unless you're willing to argue Freeza has never seen King Cold at full power (or been told by his own father that he is stronger than him if he was at full power) then his statement is saying he is stronger than King Cold in general, not just his "2nd" form. Besides, even with the very slim chance he has never seen Cold's full power, nor has he been told it is stronger than him, then you still have King Cold saying nothing on the issue right there. Basically the only way Freeza's statement works with King Cold still being stronger is if: A) Freeza has never seen King Cold at full power/any power higher than his own B) King Cold has never told Freeza how much power he has C) King Cold doesn't care when other people gloat about being the strongest in the universe when he himself is stronger But my main point here is that Freeza's statement is "I am the strongest in the universe" not "I am the strongest in the universe, as long as daddy remains suppressed" Quote: That's like saying 1st form Freiza was weaker than Piccolo w/ Nail, therefore his final form must be weaker as well. No, because Freeza never said "He's the strongest in the universe!" while knowing he himself is stronger. Edited by Clearin, Jul 17 2013, 09:23 PM.



+ Pyrus	Jul 17 2013, 09:27 PM Post #12
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Freeza's statements would still be uncontradicted because there'd be nothing to prove Cold's strength in a hypothetical next form.
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AA500	Jul 17 2013, 09:33 PM Post #13
Posts: 2,079 Group: Member Member #9,363 Joined: April 11, 2013 Gender Not Specified	People actually think Cold is stronger than Frieza? I thought it was established, not to mention directly stated Frieza was superior. Toplel



POOHEAD189	Jul 17 2013, 09:45 PM Post #14
Posts: 3,186 Group: Member Member #4,559 Joined: October 30, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z Favourite Manga Dragonball	If what you say is true then I retract my statement. However, I just checked the manga, and unless the translation was odd or I accidently skipped over something, the only thing I ever see is Freiza saying he can now beat Goku in his mecha state, and King Cold Saying that he only cares about their clan being the strongest in the universe. And if you are saying that Freiza stating he is the strongest in the Universe when he fights Goku...well Vegeta pretty much implies he is the strongest in the Saiyan saga. All that means was that AT didn't know about the next villain. And I also checked when Goku kicked Freiza when they were both fighting in base, and Freiza admits only his parents have ever hurt him. I wanted to make sure that was in the manga and not just the anime. Edited by POOHEAD189, Jul 17 2013, 09:46 PM.
	Tha gaol agam ort. <3


+ Clearin	Jul 17 2013, 09:49 PM Post #15
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	POOHEAD189 Jul 17 2013, 09:45 PM If what you say is true then I retract my statement. However, I just checked the manga, and unless the translation was odd or I accidently skipped over something, the only thing I ever see is Freiza saying he can now beat Goku in his mecha state, and King Cold Saying that he only cares about their clan being the strongest in the universe. And if you are saying that Freiza stating he is the strongest in the Universe when he fights Goku...well Vegeta pretty much implies he is the strongest in the Saiyan saga. All that means was that AT didn't know about the next villain. And I also checked when Goku kicked Freiza when they were both fighting in base, and Freiza admits only his parents have ever hurt him. I wanted to make sure that was in the manga and not just the anime. Chapter: 331 (DBZ 137), P3.5 Freeza: “It’s an honor that my name should be known on this planet so far removed from the rest of the galaxy…However, unfortunately you don’t seem to know that I have the greatest power in the universe…” Said to Trunks in front of King Cold. Viz aren't the most competent translators around. They miss a lot of stuff/change stuff around so you're best off using Herms.



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