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Cyborg Tao vs Majin Spopovich
Topic Started: Jul 16 2013, 06:15 PM (5,370 Views)
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Lol now ur being ignorant its in the manga not my random crazy claims its right there in the manga nothing twisted straight up

Goku feats.statments actions >videls its right there , ur no just being a fanboy of videl with not acrually bringing up anything atleast cenet is trying and u need a break take one, cause ur not helping videls case at all,

And no cenet conjecture again while a somewhat.decent feat does not put her above goku
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Her pummeling of Spopovitch is a feat. Spopovitch should be extremely strong at this point, due to the Majin spell.
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lol y does this have 6 pages

Tao kills him with an eyelash.
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Jul 19 2013, 08:00 PM
lol y does this have 6 pages

Tao kills him with an eyelash.
Explain. I agree that Cyborg Tao is out of Spopo's league, but explain.
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Do not give me orders, young one.


Tao needed a tongue to kill Blue. Blue made a laughingstock out of Krillin, who was at least as strong as he was at the 21st Budokai. All we know 'bout Spopo is that he could kill Videl, who is merely an above average regular human who can fly, with a chi blast if he wanted to, which isn't saying much. If that's the best he can do, Spopo shouldn't be able to do so much as bruise any of the note-worthy 21st Budokai fighters.
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Do u see lord videl is nothing special
All she has is some martial arts and some flying
And half a decent feat, unless u can bring something that can bring her above golu this is pointless
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Kyouka Suigetsu
Jul 19 2013, 08:07 PM
Do not give me orders, young one.


Tao needed a tongue to kill Blue. Blue made a laughingstock out of Krillin, who was at least as strong as he was at the 21st Budokai. All we know 'bout Spopo is that he could kill Videl, who is merely an above average regular human who can fly, with a chi blast if he wanted to, which isn't saying much. If that's the best he can do, Spopo shouldn't be able to do so much as bruise any of the note-worthy 21st Budokai fighters.
I disagree. The Majin spell gave Spopo a huge boost, like it did Vegeta. I'm thinking at least 10x. He lacks the technique, but he has the raw strength and endurance. I'd say he is about at par with Tao Pre-Cyborg.
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Can you prove that?

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Jul 19 2013, 08:12 PM
Can you prove that?

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Chapter: 441 (DBZ 247), P12.2-5
Kuririn: “Th-that bastard, he [fired] a ki wave…though it didn’t have that much ki power…!”
Vegeta: “No…He’d lose if he killed her. He purposefully fired a weak one…”
Goku: “…It seems like he has power far surpassing his own abilities…I don’t get it…What’s going on?...”


Chapter: 458 (DBZ 264), P10.3-4, P11.2-3
Context: after Goku and Vegeta fight a bit
Goku: “Un-unbelievable…I thought I trained considerably in the afterlife…But we’re completely even…You trained more than me…”
Vegeta: “…No, that’s not it…I think I did perform more special training than you, but you’re a greater genius than I am…No matter how much time passed, this gap wouldn’t change…I realized this, when you fought with that monster Babidi sent…It was a shock…That’s why I secretly resolved myself…[ ] At the tournament, the people who knew that pair who Babidi made into his underlings said that they had become far stronger than before…I remembered that, and I thought…That if I were taken over by him too, then the gap between you and me would vanish…And I was right…”


Two quotes claiming they are far stronger than before. Not just stronger, but FAR stronger.
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So?

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Context: Vegeta bragging to Dodoria about how he became stronger.
Vegeta: “Fuhahaha…! We Saiyans grow stronger each time we fight…! The stronger the opponent, the stronger we become…So I’m becoming stronger too…! I almost died on Earth, and have now vastly powered up…!”
That was after his strength increased by 1.33x.

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Context: Vegeta thinks Zarbon’s strength has fallen from the pre-emptive attack and brags about his own increase in power.
Vegeta: “Zarbon…Weren’t you supposed to know a lot about Saiyans? It wasn’t a good idea for you to carelessly treat me after I almost died…Don’t you think so? Saiyans can steadily increase their battle power each time they recover from near death…”
Kuririn: “So…so that’s it…! Now that he mentions it, Goku also got stronger every time he had a fierce fight…Dam-dammit! So that’s why Vegeta’s ki has risen so darn much…!”
1.25x.

So your claim about a 10x increase has no evidence backing it. And secondly, so what if Spopo got "far" stronger after the Majin spell? It doesn't change the fact that the best feat he's capable of to our knowledge is killing Videl. You dunno how strong he was as a normal human so that can't be used as a basis for huge strength at all.
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Humans have a lot of hidden potential. Evidenced in Krillin, Yamcha and Tenshinhan.

Please explain Vegeta from Recoome to Freeza.
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Jul 19 2013, 08:23 PM
Humans have a lot of hidden potential. Evidenced in Krillin, Yamcha and Tenshinhan.
You're making a hasty generalization; just because they did doesn't mean everyone does.
Lord Magus
Jul 19 2013, 08:23 PM
Please explain Vegeta from Recoome to Freeza.
What's there to explain? He gained strength...?
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Jul 19 2013, 08:25 PM
Lord Magus
Jul 19 2013, 08:23 PM
Humans have a lot of hidden potential. Evidenced in Krillin, Yamcha and Tenshinhan.
You're making a hasty generalization; just because they did doesn't mean everyone does..


I'll leave this discussion. I am not admitting defeat, though.

Kyouka Suigetsu
Jul 19 2013, 08:25 PM
Lord Magus
Jul 19 2013, 08:23 PM
Please explain Vegeta from Recoome to Freeza.
What's there to explain? He gained strength...?


He increased his strength with over 10x.
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Lord Magus
Jul 19 2013, 08:31 PM
He increased his strength with over 10x.
....not sure what you meant to accomplish with this. Just because I said 1.25x sufficed for a huge increase doesn't mean 10x didn't.

And okay.
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Jul 19 2013, 08:36 PM
Lord Magus
Jul 19 2013, 08:31 PM
He increased his strength with over 10x.
....not sure what you meant to accomplish with this. Just because I said 1.25x sufficed for a huge increase doesn't mean 10x didn't.

And okay.
I'm not sure how Vegeta's gains are relevant in the first place. He clearly had almost his full potential out in the Boo arc.
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