Ginyu (full power) vs. Vegeta (after Recoome pounding)

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Ginyu (full power) vs. Vegeta (after Recoome pounding)
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SSJ	Jul 17 2013, 02:30 AM Post #31
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Kyo How would Ginyu know? Did he scan Vegeta with his scouter? Did he confirm it and give us a statement that he'd do better with Vegeta's body? Potentially by feeling his punches. Ginyu already fought Goku who was suppressed, so by gauging Vegwta's punches, he could potentially tell. Kyo So his power jumped from <<60,000 to 250,000 during those few seconds before Jeice checked his scouter? He was hiding his battle power, since Jeice's scouter picked up nothing until Vegeta told him to look.



+ Kyouks	Jul 17 2013, 02:34 AM Post #32
Posts: 10,305 Group: Elite Member Member #8,102 Joined: August 11, 2012 Gender Other Country South Africa Favourite Anime Hentai What Browser do you use? The best one Favourite Manga They all suck	SuperSaiyan2 Jul 17 2013, 02:30 AM Potentially by feeling his punches. Ginyu already fought Goku who was suppressed, so by gauging Vegeta's punches, he could potentially tell. So this is all conjecture on your part. You only answered the 'how' part of my question; now where does Ginyu confirm this? SuperSaiyan2 Jul 17 2013, 02:30 AM He was hiding his battle power, since Jeice's scouter picked up nothing until Vegeta told him to look. SuperSaiyan2 Feb 21 2013, 02:04 AM I think that his Zenkai from Recoom is still in effect, and is continuing to raise his power level. So which is it?



+ Pyrus	Jul 17 2013, 02:51 AM Post #33
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Don't forget to set the alarm because Kyo is starting a fire in here!
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+ Havoc_Wreaker	Jul 17 2013, 03:04 AM Post #34
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	Cough....kp....equals....hypeman.....



SSJ	Jul 17 2013, 03:06 AM Post #35
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Kyouka Suigetsu Jul 17 2013, 02:34 AM SuperSaiyan2 Jul 17 2013, 02:30 AM Potentially by feeling his punches. Ginyu already fought Goku who was suppressed, so by gauging Vegeta's punches, he could potentially tell. So this is all conjecture on your part. You only answered the 'how' part of my question; now where does Ginyu confirm this? SuperSaiyan2 Jul 17 2013, 02:30 AM He was hiding his battle power, since Jeice's scouter picked up nothing until Vegeta told him to look. SuperSaiyan2 Feb 21 2013, 02:04 AM I think that his Zenkai from Recoom is still in effect, and is continuing to raise his power level. So which is it? And to your second point, it is both. His power was growing, but he was hiding it. Saying he isn't 250k is more conjecture than what I am saying. Ginyu (Goku) had been fighting Krillin and Gohan who both must be approaching 30 000. After experiencing how little of power he gained from Goku, he must have thought he could beat them both using Vegeta. http://view.thespectrum.net/series/dragon-ball-volume-01.html?ch=Volume+25&page=19 He is nearly sure he can win using him. Goku even confirms this by saying it is all over if Vegeta is taken by Ginyu. http://view.thespectrum.net/series/dragon-ball-volume-01.html?ch=Volume+25&page=20 Goku knew he could only produce 23k in his own body, so if he thought it would be over if Ginyu got Vegeta, he must be higher than that. Especially with Gohan and Krillin around 30k. http://view.thespectrum.net/series/dragon-ball-volume-01.html?ch=Volume+25&page=7 We also have Vegeta saying he is closer to becoming a super saiyan than Goku would ever be, despite sensing his full power earlier.



+ Kyouks	Jul 17 2013, 05:13 AM Post #36
Posts: 10,305 Group: Elite Member Member #8,102 Joined: August 11, 2012 Gender Other Country South Africa Favourite Anime Hentai What Browser do you use? The best one Favourite Manga They all suck	SuperSaiyan2 Jul 17 2013, 03:06 AM Saying he isn't 250k is more conjecture than what I am saying. Wait, so questioning evidence (which is far from saying he isn't 250k, something which you're treating as a solid, indisputable figure) brought forth is "more conjecture" than saying "Ginyu knew he'd get more power from Vegeta and he might have known from 'potentially' feeling his punches despite nothing hinting at such"? Dis guy. SS2 Ginyu (Goku) had been fighting Krillin and Gohan who both must be approaching 30 000. After experiencing how little of power he gained from Goku, he must have thought he could beat them both using Vegeta. He is nearly sure he can win using him. He isn't nearly sure of anything. Goku's body and his own are wrecked so he's taking Vegeta's. That's it. SS2 Goku even confirms this by saying it is all over if Vegeta is taken by Ginyu. Now I'm left wondering why several posts were wasted on total guesses and then valid evidence is thrown into the last one as an afterthought, meh. Also, those links are illegal. Don't post them. Edited by Kyouks, Jul 17 2013, 05:19 AM.



Kblo247	Jul 17 2013, 11:36 AM Post #37
Posts: 5,234 Group: Member Member #6,870 Joined: October 16, 2011	Ginyu didnt need a scouter to measure Gokus ability without kaioken. He got a guess just by looking at him at what he was capable of without the technique, and that his full power still wasn't enough to beat him. Its quite possible he gauges Vegeta by watching him slice apart Jeice and then by feeling how he bats him around. Vegeta felt out 19s power the same and Frieza also gauged Gokus. Is a planet trade thing



+ Pyrus	Jul 17 2013, 05:06 PM Post #38
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Ginyu's first estimation was likely based off of the fact that he beat the Ginyu Force so easily. His second estimation of 85,000 was made after they scrapped for a while, so it'd be similar to how Freeza knew Base Goku was holding back more power as well.
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SSJ	Jul 17 2013, 05:11 PM Post #39
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	So you agree Kyouka? How about you KP?



+ Pyrus	Jul 17 2013, 05:24 PM Post #40
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	That he felt Vegeta's punches and gauged his strength that way?
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SSJ	Jul 17 2013, 05:25 PM Post #41
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+ Pyrus	Jul 17 2013, 05:29 PM Post #42
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	So are you arguing that Vegeta would have to be higher than Goku's 180,000 for Ginyu's body swap to end up higher than 23,000?
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SSJ	Jul 17 2013, 05:32 PM Post #43
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	ObsessiveFanGuy Jul 17 2013, 05:29 PM So are you arguing that Vegeta would have to be higher than Goku's 180,000 for Ginyu's body swap to end up higher than 23,000? Yes which Goku confirms. He says it will be over if Ginyu uses Vegeta, so that must produce a body higher than 30 000. If Vegeta was weaker than Goku, then the swap would be useless and Gohan and Krillin could stomp him. Edited by SSJ, Jul 17 2013, 05:33 PM.



+ Pyrus	Jul 17 2013, 05:41 PM Post #44
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	What does Goku say is the reason Ginyu is so weak in his body?
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SSJ	Jul 17 2013, 05:45 PM Post #45
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Something about his mind and body not being in sync.



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