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Ginyu (full power) vs. Vegeta (after Recoome pounding)
Topic Started: Jul 16 2013, 01:48 AM (2,255 Views)
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Jul 16 2013, 10:11 AM
Why would Vegeta cower in fear of Goku's power?
Beats me. Inconsistency?
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Or maybe he didn't know the power he held deep within himself... I don't know what I'm even saying right now. I'm too tired to actually process this information.
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Jul 16 2013, 10:17 AM
Or maybe he didn't know the power he held deep within himself... I don't know what I'm even saying right now. I'm too tired to actually process this information.
Go to bed, Pyro-san.
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Goku's like, "if Ginyu gets Vegeta's body he'll beat Gohan and Krillin which he can't do in my body," so unless he's got some insight on how Ginyu's s*** works I tend to place Vegeta over Goku's 90,000.
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Vegeta seemed to follow Goku's movements , so he could be at that tier.
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Yep Goku never fooled him when fighting the Ginyus. Krillin and Ghan were in awe, Vegeta tracked him. He later on scoffed at the notion Goku could fight Frieza solo.

I go with the whole the senzu equaled food and healing. The nap equaled his first true rest. So I have him going 30k -> 250k -> 500K
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Same here.

30,000 against Reccome

250,000 against Jeice and Ginyu (Goku's body)

500,000 against Frieza's 1st form
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Maybe at that point Vegeta didnt get all his power from the beating untill he rested later on. Or maybe Vegeta was surprised that from his power boost, Goku still manage to catch with him in power (I think Goku is alittle stronger than him at that point)
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I think veggie learned firsthand to not overlook kaioken. Even if he's at 2k, a triple like on earth over powers him
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He didn't know what Kaioken was.
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Jul 16 2013, 10:05 AM
Anything over 50,000 is blasphemy.
Lol we had this debate before.

It is simple to defend. In the manga, Vegeta was gaining extremely fast, which is backed up by a quote. The "nap" he had only was one panel long, and there is no way he would gain 400 000+ in that short of time. It only makes sense if Vegeta was constantly rising.
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Let me play DA in peace dammit!

You gotta prove that, buddo.
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Jul 17 2013, 02:09 AM
Let me play DA in peace dammit!

You gotta prove that, buddo.
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But this is Vegeta immediately after the Senzu took it's effect, so he's like 60,000 at the very most. I'd say around 50,000 my self.

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Feb 21 2013, 02:04 AM
So we all know that Goku was at 180 000 when he fought Ginyu. When Ginyu used Goku's body, he could only produce 23 000. With this power level he was no match for Gohan or Krillin. What I gather from this is that Ginyu figured that he would have a better chance at beating them if he had Vegeta's body. He knew Goku was not enough, so he could have known that Vegeta had a higher power level than Goku. This is one reason why I place him at 250 000.
How would Ginyu know? Did he scan Vegeta with his scouter? Did he confirm it and give us a statement that he'd do better with Vegeta's body?
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Feb 21 2013, 02:04 AM
My second reason is because of this quote:

Chapter: 289 (DBZ 95), P6.1-2
Context: after Jheese freaks out over Vegeta's new battle power
Vegeta: “That’s right…I’ve surpassed Saiyan limits, and my strength is still increasing more and more…The truth is that I’ve realized it too…That this extension of my power isn’t merely what you’d call giftedness…In other words…I’m steadily drawing near…to becoming a Super Saiyan!”

So basically what I take from this is that Vegeta is continuing to increase his power level during the fight. I think that his Zenkai from Recoom is still in effect, and is continuing to raise his power level. It may seem like Vegeta is doing worse than Goku did against Jeice, but once he tells Jeice to look at his scouter, the match is over. Vegeta proceeds to manhandle him with one shot. So he may have been below 60 000 Goku during the fight, but since his power keeps on raising, he reaches 250 000 by the end of the fight.
So his power jumped from <<60,000 to 250,000 during those few seconds before Jeice checked his scouter?

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Jul 17 2013, 02:24 AM
But this is Vegeta immediately after the Senzu took it's effect, so he's like 60,000 at the very most. I'd say around 50,000 my self.
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then fights the Vegeta he fought in Gokus body
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