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| Alex KloonBoss Dragonball Powerlevel List | |
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| Alex D. Boss | Jul 4 2013, 04:59 PM Post #16 |
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Goku at that current state when being serious against Krillin was already stronger than everybody himself. |
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| + Kyouks | Jul 5 2013, 02:24 AM Post #17 |
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Which part, the "...my position's already vanished" part? |
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| + Emmeth | Jul 5 2013, 04:37 AM Post #18 |
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You... did read the entire post, right? |
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| + Pyrus | Jul 5 2013, 04:57 AM Post #19 |
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My colleague doesn't read posts. He absorbs them. |
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| + Kyouks | Jul 5 2013, 10:03 AM Post #20 |
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You spoke of Young Roshi then Roshi's 'suppression' at the tournament, and then Roshi in relation to a Goku who hadn't gone all-out. It all seemed to connect rather loosely to the first point (Young Roshi) so I was clarifying. It isn't too complicated, albeit perhaps a bit odd(?). Roshi and Tenshinhan fight each other at a certain level. This level of strength, at the end of their fight at least, surpasses the strength Tenshinhan used to own Yamcha, with Tenshinhan being the slight superior of the two. However, Tenshinhan believes that Roshi hadn't gone all-out, and this is accepted to be true as he sounded sure and it was never contradicted later. As for the degree at which Roshi held back, it was never elaborated on, so it needn't be anything too big or too small. When Roshi saw Goku's performance against Krillin and commented that he may have lost his position, it means that match-level Goku should at least be comparable to Roshi's full power, unless Roshi can somehow foresee exactly how much Goku is holding back. Naturally, this means that Goku's full strength is at least somewhat of a generous amount beyond Roshi, as is Tenshinhan's full strength. When Roshi describes the threat of Piccolo Daimao, he says that 'not only' he and Tsuru, but 'even' Mutaito couldn't beat him, which is likely the basis of his worry for Goku. This could imply that Young Roshi is perhaps stronger than, or at least around, 22nd Goku. Young Roshi >/~ 22nd battle-use Goku > Tenshinhan >/>> match-use Goku >=< 22nd Roshi (FP) >/>> 22nd Roshi (holding back). |
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Jul 5 2013, 08:35 PM Post #21 |
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The List is good, but I've found a few mistakes: - Pilaf Arc Goku without Tail - You got Goku weaker with Tail than without: Chapter: 40, P12.4, 13.1 Goku: "Heheh! I knew that I'm in better condition when I've got my tail!" *He smashes wall* Goku: "Alright! I'm in tip-top shape, tip-top shape!" - I personally think that Jackie Chun & Goku should be equal at the 21st Budokai or even a bit stronger Chapter: 53, P13.3 Context: after standing up before Goku does, following their double kick-induced double knockout Kame-sennin: "I won because of my long legs...As an adult, my legs are longer than your small ones, and so my kick was that much deeper...But at any rate, you did well...You're the first person to ever push Muten Roshi this far..." I don't think that would go without any comment Chapter: 97, P10.1-6 Bulma: "That boy just keeps getting stronger, doesn't he?" Yamcha: "He's quite a fellow indeed." Kame-sennin: "He may even be stronger than me at this point..." Kuririn: "W-What--?! Are you serious--?!" - Why is Pianno stronger than Cymbal, if anything he should be weaker since Pianno's purpose was to advise Piccolo & Cymbal's purpose was to scout the Dragon Balls in which case he would have to be prepared to fight strong guys & I can't find anything on Pianno on the strenght checker whilst I can for Cymbal. There is also the fact that Piccolo Daimao told Tambourine to not get caught of guard of a guy that defeated Cymbal. - 23rd Budokai King Chappa should either be close/equal/or a little stronger to 22nd Budokai Goku, since he was confident in fighting an even improved Goku & it wasn't contradicted. Chapter: 167, P7.2 Context: talking to Goku. He thinks he's gotten a lot better since they last fought. Chapa: "You've run out of luck. This will be as far as you go this time; things won't go at all like they did previously." - Why is Half of Piccolo Daimao's power not double of his full (unless you just wanted to fit everythinh in) & also it was less than half power Chapter: 143, P12.3 Context: Piccolo continues to outclass Goku Piccolo: "Hohhohhoh...You have no chance of winning, no matter how you struggle, and you can't run away either. It seems all that's left for you is the road to death. I'm still not even putting out half of my power. Too bad for you...so then, what will you do?" |
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| + Kyouks | Jul 5 2013, 08:37 PM Post #22 |
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He restricted the list so that the figures wouldn't surpass the beginning of Z figures of 400ish for Goku and Piccolo, which makes fitting everything properly very difficult. |
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| + Emmeth | Jul 5 2013, 08:42 PM Post #23 |
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Young Roshi is stil weaker than Roshi @ BoZ. Did he gain power in the years up to BoZ, even though he stopped training? |
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| + Kyouks | Jul 5 2013, 08:45 PM Post #24 |
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I think Alex just screwed up there... |
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| + Emmeth | Jul 5 2013, 08:49 PM Post #25 |
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Yeah, I do think the numbers might be too low. It's a good list though, besides that. |
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| Alex D. Boss | Jul 5 2013, 08:50 PM Post #26 |
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Actually the powerlevels aren't official. I only tried to bring them to BoZ , as Krillin is even stronger than Boz hehe. |
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| + Emmeth | Jul 5 2013, 08:52 PM Post #27 |
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But isn't it stated that Piccolo is about the only one who actually trains between 23rd and BoZ? I've heard that somewhere. If that's true, it's not illogical that Krillin drops in power. |
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| Alex D. Boss | Jul 5 2013, 08:57 PM Post #28 |
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- Goku W/Tail means Without tail , apologize for not being clear. - shown in a H2H fight , Goku was a few steps stronger. Jackie won as his legs were longer which only made him in a advantage. - I don't think its very factual or a good evidence , but Piano called Cymbal a weakling , thats why I put Cymbal lower. - King Chapa fought a Goku who didn't use his Full match level. So I have him stronger than Goku when fighting King Chapa as Chapa didn't saw Goku at FP - Yeah the reasons Kyouka posted. The list would be a messed up if I would do it perfectly. @ Lord Emmeth/ Magus The list isn't official , the powerlist is nowhere from the Daiz or whatever powerlevels. Only Goku from 10 , thats it. Roshi , Tao , Tien 22nd , Krillin ,Yamcha , Chiuatzu , Yajirobe do NOT have the powerlevels from the Daiz list. Just own numbers ![]() I just couldn't make them go along with BoZ. Maybe I can , I will do it tomorrow. But its not necessary , as there won't be a Z list. Meh .. Edited by Alex D. Boss, Jul 5 2013, 09:02 PM.
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Jul 5 2013, 09:04 PM Post #29 |
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About King Chappa, I forgot sorry about that I can't find the Pianno Quote on the strength checker |
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| + Kyouks | Jul 5 2013, 09:04 PM Post #30 |
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Goku as well, otherwise Piccolo still being weaker than Goku would be strange. Spoiler: click to toggle
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