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18 vs Base Kids
Topic Started: Jul 2 2013, 08:53 PM (2,673 Views)
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ObsessiveFanGuy
Jul 3 2013, 06:17 AM
Professor Freeza
Jul 3 2013, 05:09 AM
Excuse me , but how does androids improve and be stronger unless you change their Artificial Ki Battery ?

The theory goes that since they are from a human base, they can still train and grow stronger like a human normally would. I find that hardly sufficient, though, since that's not hinted to be the case whatsoever.
Okay , so a typical base girl who is even weaker than Videl trains for just 7 years and goes from being as strong as an average human [pl 5] to over 100% freeza in Pl , so that the rest of the power can be supplied by her artificial ki battery and make her stronger than Base Trunks and Base Goten . Really ? Did you even think of a logical question which will deny this claim in the 1st chance ? You should remember that #18's artificial ki battery didnt change and her artificial ki supply didnt supply more power to her . Training can make her learn a few new skills , not make her stronger . This theory is a fail .
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The mechanical parts could magnify her power instead of add to it, that could be why.

Not that I agree, mind you.
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I didn't say it was a theory I followed.
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Jul 3 2013, 07:40 AM
The mechanical parts could magnify her power instead of add to it, that could be why.

Not that I agree, mind you.
And just how is that possible , sir . Just curious . I know u dont agree with this . Mecha Freeza was mostly Mechanical but it just Boosted his power a little , not much or even Multiply
And Darth Pyrus , then why dont we just scrap that theory ?
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Professor Freeza
Jul 3 2013, 08:09 AM
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Jul 3 2013, 07:40 AM
The mechanical parts could magnify her power instead of add to it, that could be why.

Not that I agree, mind you.
And just how is that possible , sir . Just curious . I know u dont agree with this . Mecha Freeza was mostly Mechanical but it just Boosted his power a little , not much or even Multiply
Those parts could have multiplied Freeza's power too, just not by a lot. But since nothing is really stated about the subject, I don't really agree with it either. I was just saying, it doesn't have to be an additive boost.
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Jul 3 2013, 07:40 AM
The mechanical parts could magnify her power instead of add to it, that could be why.

Not that I agree, mind you.
And just how is that possible , sir . Just curious . I know u dont agree with this . Mecha Freeza was mostly Mechanical but it just Boosted his power a little , not much or even Multiply
And Darth Pyrus , then why dont we just scrap that theory ?
I didn't come up with it. I have no right to simply scrap it.
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Either way , it doesnt work . Androids cant be stronger by training . Case Closed
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Professor Freeza
Jul 3 2013, 08:45 AM
Either way , it doesnt work . Androids cant be stronger by training . Case Closed
Unless you can come up with 100% proof for something no case is ever completely closed. Your own opinion doesn't give you the right to call other peoples theories "fails".
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Jul 3 2013, 12:23 PM
Professor Freeza
Jul 3 2013, 08:45 AM
Either way , it doesnt work . Androids cant be stronger by training . Case Closed
Unless you can come up with 100% proof for something no case is ever completely closed. Your own opinion doesn't give you the right to call other peoples theories "fails".
I would really like someone to prove this almost-doomed theory
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There's no proof that Android 18 can increase her power by training. There's no proof she can't. You shouldn't say either person is flatout wrong unless you have some way to back yourself up outside of "that theory is a fail".
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if you check my 2nd post in this topic , you will get an accurate description of what i believe about this and i even tried to disprove this with what one calls "logic"
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Jul 3 2013, 01:51 PM
if you check my 2nd post in this topic , you will get an accurate description of what i believe about this and i even tried to disprove this with what one calls "logic"
You know I read it because that's the post I quoted your fail line from.

There's no proof that the stuff Dr Gero put inside Android 18 cannot grow with training. We're talking about a universe that can make time machines, spaceships that can do a journey in 5 days which would have taken over 4,000 years with the fastest spaceship on Earth (which would likely be faster than our fastest due to them being more technologically advanced). And in particular talking about a man who actually managed to make an infinite source of energy. Is it really out of the question to assume he made technology that can grow with training?
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Jul 3 2013, 02:00 PM
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Jul 3 2013, 01:51 PM
if you check my 2nd post in this topic , you will get an accurate description of what i believe about this and i even tried to disprove this with what one calls "logic"
You know I read it because that's the post I quoted your fail line from.

There's no proof that the stuff Dr Gero put inside Android 18 cannot grow with training. We're talking about a universe that can make time machines, spaceships that can do a journey in 5 days which would have taken over 4,000 years with the fastest spaceship on Earth (which would likely be faster than our fastest due to them being more technologically advanced). And in particular talking about a man who actually managed to make an infinite source of energy. Is it really out of the question to assume he made technology that can grow with training?
Look , i didnt say that she cant get a tad more stronger in her base form . I just said that she just Cant go from weaker than videl in normal form to above 100% freeza in 7 years of Turtle training [or any kind of training] . And for her to make a tiny bit of difference to her artificial power , she has to be as strong as SSj goku post yardrat or mecha Freeza saga SSj Trunks or maybe much higher than that . This is not a multiplication of power , its additive . And 7 years of training can make her as strong as 21st TB Goku but that , technically is a drop of Power in the sea of Power . Thus , any improvement in power will be totally negligible and will be an increase in skills and techniques and thats where it ends . Plus , its stated that Krillin didnt fight/train for 7 years , then why would #18 ? She is already the 5th strongest on earth [Gohan , vegeta , Piccolo , #17 are ahead ; Goku's dead and F Trunks has gone back to the future] . However strange may be the DBZ Universe , there is no in-universe , out-of-universe or even plot device to state that she has gotten "noticeably" stronger . They are in the Pl level of Multi-Billions and even going stronger by a 100 Million times wont be "noticeable" . Thats my point . Thank you .
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This is not a multiplication of power , its additive .

Well that's just something you made up.

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And 7 years of training can make her as strong as 21st TB Goku

So is that.

And you missed what I was saying. I wasn't saying she made her "base" power stronger, but rather added onto her android power.
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^ thats what i wanted to say by saying its additive . Stronger #18 = Gains in base Power + Artificial Power . Her Artificial Power cant increase unless she uses a better power-yielding battery

And i just made a max estimate , i will keep him as strong as majin spopovich
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