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MSSJ2 Possible? Or 3?
Topic Started: Jul 2 2013, 06:28 AM (2,874 Views)
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Jul 2 2013, 06:46 PM
I'm wondering if people know what I mean by mastered. The form gohan and goku attained in the room of space and time; ssj was their effortless base form. They stayed in it for days, even slept like that.

When goku goes ssj2 in front of fat buu and Vegeta, he has to use a lot of effort and struggle to go ssj2, it is anything but effortless. He definitely has not attained the same level of effortlessness with ssj2 like he and gohan did with ssj.
They never slept in Ssj form.

Actualy nothing realy shows that he struggles more to go Ssj2, than Ssj.

He transforms in Ssj2 without effort, especialy when he explains ssj form.

Check the Boo saga where he goes ssj and ssj2 and you will see...
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I don't agree with that. He quite apparently strains himself and hunches over in order to transform into a SSJ2.
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Jul 2 2013, 07:22 PM
I don't agree with that. He quite apparently strains himself and hunches over in order to transform into a SSJ2.
Can you put manga scan where you see him using much effort to go ssj2 ?
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He transforms to Super Saiyan 2 instantly against Vegeta.
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In theory, the forms could be "mastered" in the same sense as Super Saiyan was. All of the other stats would have to match up with Super Saiyan [2|3]'s power.
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I honestly believe that it gets harder and harder to master transformations, the further the transformation is from your base form.

Something worth mentioning is that Toriyama's "post DB" design for SSj, as seen in the spin-off series Neko Majin, has lightning in the aura.
Since Neko Majin doesn't really follow the regular DB continuity, one theory about this hasn't really been taken seriously, but some fans have theorized that Goku and Vegeta were able to combine the characteristics of SSj and SSj2 and create an intermediate form.
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Jul 2 2013, 06:46 PM
I'm wondering if people know what I mean by mastered. The form gohan and goku attained in the room of space and time; ssj was their effortless base form. They stayed in it for days, even slept like that.

When goku goes ssj2 in front of fat buu and Vegeta, he has to use a lot of effort and struggle to go ssj2, it is anything but effortless. He definitely has not attained the same level of effortlessness with ssj2 like he and gohan did with ssj.
Goku and vegeta needed the same amount of time and effort to go SSj2 as they needed to go MSSj
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I don't see why it's not possible. The SSJ2 would be no problem , but the SSJ3 would possibly take years of training to master it.
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Goku Mastered SSJ in a couple of months I'm sure if he wanted to he could master SSJ2 and SSJ3 if he gave each form a year. Goku hints that SSJ3 is less then a year old when he used it on Buu remember.
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^ Where did u get that ?
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Jul 3 2013, 07:26 AM
^ Where did u get that ?
Goku says sorry, I haven't had much time to practice this form.
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That doesnt mean it was just a year old
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Jul 3 2013, 08:06 AM
That doesnt mean it was just a year old
I'm using a general estimate of time. I don't see Goku not having a lot of time to practice his new form if he had learned it a year before the Buu saga.
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Jul 3 2013, 08:29 AM
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Jul 3 2013, 08:06 AM
That doesnt mean it was just a year old
I'm using a general estimate of time. I don't see Goku not having a lot of time to practice his new form if he had learned it a year before the Buu saga.
Goku was an SSj for 4 years now . He didnt master it . Did he ? Maybe he didnt feel to master the SSj . The same goes for SSj3 too
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Chapter: 474 (DBZ 280), P3.3-8, P4.1, P7.5
Goku: “First, this is my regular state. This is Super Saiyan. Then this is what I showed your before, a Super Saiyan that has surpassed Super Saiyan…’Super Saiyan 2’, you could call it. [ ] And so…[ ] This…Ev-even further surpasses that…[ ] …This is Super Saiyan 3. Sorry that took so long. I’m still not used to this transformation.
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