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does everyone use kaioken?
Topic Started: Jun 30 2013, 04:25 PM (2,284 Views)
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“Commit this to memory: when we fight, we amplify what you guys call ‘energy’, causing it to explode. That’s why the energy you stole from me earlier doesn't matter…”
-.- He referred to suppression ....
Goku is the only one who used kaioken

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"Corona veniat electis."

No, Tien and King Kai used Kaioken as well.

Goku is not the only one.

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Jun 30 2013, 07:30 PM
No, Tien and King Kai used Kaioken as well.

Goku is not the only one.

King Kai really??....Prove me

And Tiens case is another story ...That aura was not crimson
Edited by Pointer, Jun 30 2013, 07:32 PM.

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"Corona veniat electis."

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Jun 30 2013, 07:31 PM
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Jun 30 2013, 07:30 PM
No, Tien and King Kai used Kaioken as well.

Goku is not the only one.

King Kai really??....Prove me

And Tiens case is another story ...That aura was not crimson
King Kai taught Goku how to do it.

Thus he knew it.

Tien is Tien and knows all.
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Jun 30 2013, 07:45 PM
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Jun 30 2013, 07:31 PM
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Jun 30 2013, 07:30 PM
No, Tien and King Kai used Kaioken as well.

Goku is not the only one.

King Kai really??....Prove me

And Tiens case is another story ...That aura was not crimson
King Kai taught Goku how to do it.

Thus he knew it.

Tien is Tien and knows all.
He mentioned he could not have the opportunity to master it ...Your sentences proves that he was capable of using it neverhtless It is not a solid proof that He actually used it in the past

Tien Is Tien ....thats a a very reasonable point.. its like
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Edited by Pointer, Jun 30 2013, 07:50 PM.

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"Corona veniat electis."

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Jun 30 2013, 07:50 PM
Fronz
Jun 30 2013, 07:45 PM
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Jun 30 2013, 07:31 PM
Fronz
Jun 30 2013, 07:30 PM
No, Tien and King Kai used Kaioken as well.

Goku is not the only one.

King Kai really??....Prove me

And Tiens case is another story ...That aura was not crimson
King Kai taught Goku how to do it.

Thus he knew it.

Tien is Tien and knows all.
He mentioned he could not have the opportunity to master it ...Your sentences proves that he was capable of using it neverhtless It is not a solid proof that He actually used it in the past

Tien Is Tien ....thats a a very reasonable point.. its like
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Goku learnt the KHH from a human.

Krillin can do it as well.

Vegeta is not human, but he has the potential to do the KHH if taught.

Case in point.

Everyone can Kaio-Ken.
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Jun 30 2013, 07:45 PM
Tien is Tien and knows all.
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Jun 30 2013, 07:50 PM
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Jun 30 2013, 07:31 PM
Fronz
Jun 30 2013, 07:30 PM
No, Tien and King Kai used Kaioken as well.

Goku is not the only one.

King Kai really??....Prove me

And Tiens case is another story ...That aura was not crimson
King Kai taught Goku how to do it.

Thus he knew it.

Tien is Tien and knows all.
He mentioned he could not have the opportunity to master it ...Your sentences proves that he was capable of using it neverhtless It is not a solid proof that He actually used it in the past

Tien Is Tien ....thats a a very reasonable point.. its like
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Goku learnt the KHH from a human.

Krillin can do it as well.

Vegeta is not human, but he has the potential to do the KHH if taught.

Case in point.

Everyone can Kaio-Ken.
The topic title was "does everyone use kaioken" not Can everyone use kaioken

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"Corona veniat electis."

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Jun 30 2013, 07:53 PM
Fronz
Jun 30 2013, 07:51 PM
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Jun 30 2013, 07:50 PM
Fronz
Jun 30 2013, 07:45 PM
Abyss
Jun 30 2013, 07:31 PM
Fronz
Jun 30 2013, 07:30 PM
No, Tien and King Kai used Kaioken as well.

Goku is not the only one.

King Kai really??....Prove me

And Tiens case is another story ...That aura was not crimson
King Kai taught Goku how to do it.

Thus he knew it.

Tien is Tien and knows all.
He mentioned he could not have the opportunity to master it ...Your sentences proves that he was capable of using it neverhtless It is not a solid proof that He actually used it in the past

Tien Is Tien ....thats a a very reasonable point.. its like
Spoiler: click to toggle




Goku learnt the KHH from a human.

Krillin can do it as well.

Vegeta is not human, but he has the potential to do the KHH if taught.

Case in point.

Everyone can Kaio-Ken.
The topic title was "does everyone use kaioken" not Can everyone use kaioken
Same thing.
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No, it's not the same thing at all.
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Jun 30 2013, 07:55 PM
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Jun 30 2013, 07:53 PM
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Jun 30 2013, 07:51 PM
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Jun 30 2013, 07:50 PM
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Jun 30 2013, 07:45 PM
Abyss
Jun 30 2013, 07:31 PM
Fronz
Jun 30 2013, 07:30 PM
No, Tien and King Kai used Kaioken as well.

Goku is not the only one.

King Kai really??....Prove me

And Tiens case is another story ...That aura was not crimson
King Kai taught Goku how to do it.

Thus he knew it.

Tien is Tien and knows all.
He mentioned he could not have the opportunity to master it ...Your sentences proves that he was capable of using it neverhtless It is not a solid proof that He actually used it in the past

Tien Is Tien ....thats a a very reasonable point.. its like
Spoiler: click to toggle




Goku learnt the KHH from a human.

Krillin can do it as well.

Vegeta is not human, but he has the potential to do the KHH if taught.

Case in point.

Everyone can Kaio-Ken.
The topic title was "does everyone use kaioken" not Can everyone use kaioken
Same thing.
Goku is the only one who used this technique thoughout the series ...
King kai knows it however ..
Tien and the rest is nothing but speculation

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I believe that the Ten, Yamcha, Piccolo learned the basics of Kaio Ken, and incorporated it into their training at Kaio's.

Piccolo, Ten in particular, Piccolo is able to increase drastically within the time between being wished back, Freeza's arrival, and at #20.

Ten uses Shin Ki Ko Ho.
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I think it's clear that what Piccolo is referring to is what Goku did against the Ginyu Force, using a small amount of power to fool your opponent and then releasing more of your power in bursts.

It has nothing to do with Kaio-Ken to me.
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if that was the case, then there would be no reason to mention it, since dr. gero already knows about suppression. everyone already knows that dr. gero watched up until the fight with vegeta, and suppression debuted back at the 23rd budokai.

the term amplification is used 2 times in the series. once in the description of kaioken, and once when piccolo tells gero why absorbing energy is worthless.
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the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

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everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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So you're saying the power Gero stole was worthless because Piccolo could just use Kaioken?
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