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Shenron Plothole; Shenron summoned after barely a month
Topic Started: Jun 30 2013, 03:08 PM (1,341 Views)
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Shenron can only appear once a year right? He appears when they wish for all the people that have been killed by Frieza and his henchmen, but he shouldn't be able to appear here, why was he able to be summoned so closely after they used the wish to bring back Goku? I know, there are nearly two seasons in between, but in their time it was barely a month. The dragon balls were still inert at that time, don't say that the dragon balls aren't inert after Piccolo and Kami got revived because if that's true they could've abused the system and get infinite wishes that way.
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Yes , that is a Plothole . AT didnt remember it
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An explanation could be that he was reset when Kami was wished back.
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kami had already demonstrated the ability to instantly recharge shenron before. there's no plothole here, AT just didn't feel the need to explain it because it had happened before.
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Jun 30 2013, 03:22 PM
An explanation could be that he was reset when Kami was wished back.
That's what I would also like to think.
But let's face it - plothole.
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Jun 30 2013, 04:10 PM
kami had already demonstrated the ability to instantly recharge shenron before. there's no plothole here, AT just didn't feel the need to explain it because it had happened before.
When did he recharge shenron ?
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He re-created Shenron when King Piccolo killed it. That's different though, because he was re-built and from what I understand, new powers were inserted into the dragon.
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no. he did rebuild shenron, but he also specified that he was waiving the normal 1 year wait time. kami was able to do that deliberately, it wasn't just a side effect of shenron being restored.
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The real plothole with the dragon balls is the fact Goku used them 8-9 months after they were last used during the RRA saga.
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more of a retcon than a plothole. at the time, it had not been established that you couldn't detect the dragonballs while they were inert, so goku was able to locate them with the radar. the rra saga could have very well lasted 4 months, meaning the wish itself is not a plothole.
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The RRA saga lasted about 5 days. The dates were very specific back then.

Day 1: Muscle tower stuff
Day 2: Goku goes to south city to get the radar fixed, General Blue stuff happens, Goku gets beaten by Tao and climbs Korin's tower
Day 3: Goku finishes climbing the tower in the early morning and starts the training.
Day 5 Goku finishes the training and beats Tao, then wipes out the red ribbon army base.
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really? i don't remember any dates like that in the manga.
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Just read the saga from start to finish, it's all there. Besides Goku found the first dragon ball the day after he set off to search for them, and it wasn't a rock.
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yeah. like i said, that part was more retcon than plothole, since it wasn't established until afterwards that they turn to stone, iirc. and if the wish was really made just 6 days after the budokai, then the wish itself is a plothole.
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Bulma stated after Oolong wished for panties that they turned to stone for a year.
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