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* Mitas	Jun 28 2013, 05:53 PM Post #1
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	I was going to make a draft/off-season topic like I did for the Play-Offs, but thought why not just make a general NBA topic and just use it as a place for all ongoing NBA news, views, discussions etc. For a draft lacking in talent, there was certainly not a lack of interesting developments. The big one for me was that Sixers trading Jrue Holiday to New Orleans for Nerlens Noel and a future first-rounder (top-5 protected). A lot of people are low on Holiday, but I think he's an amazing addition for the Pelicans. He averaged 17.7ppg and 8apg, is a strong presence at 6'4 and is still young at 23 (and he was an all star this year). With Holiday and Eric Gordon in the backcourt, New Orleans have an impressive, young set of guards to build around, and obviously an immense defensive talent with an emerging offensive game in Anthony Davis. They also have a few players available to develop or package together for a trade. I'm saying it now: New Orleans for the 8th spot next season. Big trade in the East too, with Boston basically pressing the reset button and sending Pierce and Garnett to Brooklyn. I'm not a fan of what they got in return, but this puts Boston in place to have a high draft pick in next years draft which is very highly rated. For the Nets, I'm not ready to make a comment on it yet. It depends on how the chemistry works out, but a starting line-up of Deron Williams, Joe Johnson, Pierce, Garnett and Brook Lopez has potential to be very dangerous, if they can divide the ballhandling time evenly between Deron, Johnson and Pierce. But they're going all in and not leaving themselves a lot of options for the future, which is a big risk when you've got to get past Miami, Chicago and the Pacers just to get to the Finals.
	"Then you've got the chance to do better next time." "Next time?" "Course. Doing better next time. That's what life is."


Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro	Jul 5 2013, 11:59 AM Post #2
Elder Posts: 1,080 Group: Member Member #9,167 Joined: March 11, 2013 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga DB	I think the Philadelphia 76ers need a new gm. The Bynum trade and now they traded their best player for a potential bust? Huge gamble and it might come back to bite him in the @ss.
	STRAIGHT OUTTA NAMEK I miss my cocoa butter kisses. Which one of these mods tryna let me bust? Spoiler: click to toggle Spoiler: click to toggle


Hurry My Curry	Jul 7 2013, 11:18 PM Post #3
Master Troll Posts: 3,800 Group: Members Member #7,981 Joined: July 20, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	My dubs struck out in the D12 sweepstakes, though I'm not sure if that's a good thing anymore ahaha. Signed Iguodala though. Not sure how I feel about that, because this means that either Klay Thompson or Harrison Barnes is going to be on the bench, probably going to be Klay Thompson.
	Miles for mod


Sasuke	Jul 8 2013, 06:31 AM Post #4
Posts: 1,922 Group: Member Member #7,745 Joined: June 11, 2012	I don't think it really matters at this point. Lebron James is in his prime and finally as learned how to close out games and come up big in pressure situations. You can pretty much be sure the next few final appearances are gonna have the Heat in them.



* Mitas	Jul 8 2013, 06:37 PM Post #5
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	I think the Sixers are being pretty realistic. I thought the same thing as you did initially, but I think it makes sense for them to hit the reset button. It was always going to be a risk bringing Bynum back because of the injury history and I guess they looked at their roster and decided that it didn't have enough talent to make them a legitimate contender, but was just good enough to take them out of position to get a high draft pick. Giving up on Holiday is a risk, as I believe he's a good PG with great potential, but they've grabbed a couple of young guys with potential (Nerlens Noel & Michael Carter-Williams), have a good chance now at getting a high draft pick in a draft heralded as one of the best ever and also still have some assets to trade. As for the Warriors, I think adding Iguodala puts them right up there with the best of the West, just behind the Thunder. They'll have many opportunities during matches to go with a killer line-up of Curry, Iguodala, Thompson, Barnes and Bogut. I think they'll actually bring Thompson off of the bench and start Iggy alongside Curry at SG. They're a dark horse in the making. Howard to the Rockets was something I was expecting all off-season. With Harden and Howard, the Rockets have a brilliant foundation, alongside Parsons who's a good role player. I think they'll make some more moves if possible, especially with Asik and Lin making about $30 million between them in 2014/15, so it'll be interesting to see how their roster lines up on opening day. Lots of other moves. I don't like the Josh Smith signing for the Pistons. They already had a Monroe-Drummond frontcourt that was young and a great young building block to put pieces around, but now it looks likely that they'll be keeping Drummond on the bench again and going with a Smith-Monroe frontcourt. Either that or he'll start at SF, which isn't ideal because he's an average shooter at best, so it clogs up the space that Monroe and Drummond need to work in.
	"Then you've got the chance to do better next time." "Next time?" "Course. Doing better next time. That's what life is."


Mihawk	Jul 8 2013, 07:25 PM Post #6
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	Bogut is an extremely good defensive center. Now with another defensive specialist they can really go far in the playoffs. Houston is gonna be extremely good. I wanna see them play small ball though and keep asik out of the starting line up (or trade him!).



~~Volt the Mean~~	Jul 8 2013, 11:01 PM Post #7
Posts: 909 Group: Suspended Member #8,024 Joined: July 28, 2012 Gender Male Country United States	Mitas Jul 8 2013, 06:37 PM As for the Warriors, I think adding Iguodala puts them right up there with the best of the West, just behind the Thunder. They'll have many opportunities during matches to go with a killer line-up of Curry, Iguodala, Thompson, Barnes and Bogut. I think they'll actually bring Thompson off of the bench and start Iggy alongside Curry at SG. They're a dark horse in the making. I really doubt they're gonna bench Klay its more likely to be Barnes to take a seat and learn for a couple more years, the kid is only 21. Keep this in mind is that if Barnes starts taking notes on Iggy and becomes a dominant defender like him, GS has an extremely bright future for the next 6 years tops. And Curry at SG... Really now? Klay needs people to pass the ball to him like Iggy and Curry if he comes of the bench he'll have to be the main emphasis which doesn't suit him just yet. As of right now the only needs of the Warriors are a solid C, and a backup PG for Curry. The lineup you mentioned is probably gonna be used during crunch minutes when MJ plays small ball o close out a game.



* Mitas	Jul 9 2013, 01:12 AM Post #8
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	I mean they'll play Iguodala at SG, next to Curry at PG. Although the addition of Iguodala means that Curry can also play off-the-ball a bit and Golden State can have Iggy running the point and Curry and Thompson spotting up for threes. I think that bringing Klay Thompson off of the bench gives them a better look than Barnes because he's an instant offense kind of guy who can come into games and heat up quickly. Barnes is a lot more hit and miss as like you said, he's still learning.
	"Then you've got the chance to do better next time." "Next time?" "Course. Doing better next time. That's what life is."


~~Volt the Mean~~	Jul 9 2013, 10:41 PM Post #9
Posts: 909 Group: Suspended Member #8,024 Joined: July 28, 2012 Gender Male Country United States	Mitas Jul 9 2013, 01:12 AM I mean they'll play Iguodala at SG, next to Curry at PG. Although the addition of Iguodala means that Curry can also play off-the-ball a bit and Golden State can have Iggy running the point and Curry and Thompson spotting up for threes. I think that bringing Klay Thompson off of the bench gives them a better look than Barnes because he's an instant offense kind of guy who can come into games and heat up quickly. Barnes is a lot more hit and miss as like you said, he's still learning. All in all with the additions of Speights, O'Neil, and Douglas the Dubs are set to make a run for it all! xD It feels good to be a Dubs fan right now!



Hurry My Curry	Jul 10 2013, 08:50 AM Post #10
Master Troll Posts: 3,800 Group: Members Member #7,981 Joined: July 20, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	I'm gonna say this about the warriors. We. Needed. Jack. I just don't trust Curry to stay completely healthy!
	Miles for mod


~~Volt the Mean~~	Jul 10 2013, 09:36 PM Post #11
Posts: 909 Group: Suspended Member #8,024 Joined: July 28, 2012 Gender Male Country United States	Hurry My Curry Jul 10 2013, 08:50 AM I'm gonna say this about the warriors. We. Needed. Jack. I just don't trust Curry to stay completely healthy! If you watched the entire Warriors season lat year jack was the main reason for more losses than wins, besides Iggy is pretty much Jacks replacement he can do everything jack can do and even better. And if you got a problem with Iggy they recently signed Tony Douglas a PG who is a pass first/Defensive type of guard. The Warriors have elimanted the need for Jack, and also for Landry b signing Mareese a mid range shooting PF.



Hurry My Curry	Jul 11 2013, 05:39 AM Post #12
Master Troll Posts: 3,800 Group: Members Member #7,981 Joined: July 20, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	No that's not true at all. Jack was way more valuable to the team than he was a detriment. All of his errors were magnified like with many other athletes like LeBron or Tony Romo. Iguodala's offense is nowhere near on par with Jarret Jack's even though his defense is much better. Iguodala is also a luxury to the warriors, because they should have there shooting guard and small forward positions locked up for the future with Klay Thompson and Harrison Barnes. They would have been better off getting a better back up point guard for Curry, because his injury problems will always be a concern.
	Miles for mod


* Mitas	Jul 11 2013, 08:01 AM Post #13
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	But they didn't bring Iguodala in for his offense; they added him to bring elite-level defence. I love the addition of Iggy as I said before. His biggest weakness on offense is his shooting. Putting him alongside Curry and Thompson, two of the best shooters in the league, and Barnes who's no slouch himself, makes his shooting troubles a null point and allows him to focus on his strengths i.e. defending, playmaking, attacking the rim. He won't have to force the issue and can just let his points come in the flow of the offense. Did anybody see Reggie Jackson in Summer League? I caught some of the 4th quarter against Detroit and he was immense, scored 33 points, 23 of them came in the 4th to bring them back from being down 14 to win the game. I was beginning to become a fan of him as a good backup option to Westbrook and this just proved that he's definitely made that step from decent young player to a solid rotation option.
	"Then you've got the chance to do better next time." "Next time?" "Course. Doing better next time. That's what life is."


~~Volt the Mean~~	Jul 11 2013, 08:36 AM Post #14
Posts: 909 Group: Suspended Member #8,024 Joined: July 28, 2012 Gender Male Country United States	Hurry My Curry Jul 11 2013, 05:39 AM No that's not true at all. Jack was way more valuable to the team than he was a detriment. All of his errors were magnified like with many other athletes like LeBron or Tony Romo. Iguodala's offense is nowhere near on par with Jarret Jack's even though his defense is much better. Iguodala is also a luxury to the warriors, because they should have there shooting guard and small forward positions locked up for the future with Klay Thompson and Harrison Barnes. They would have been better off getting a better back up point guard for Curry, because his injury problems will always be a concern. Ewwww did you just say Iggy's offense isnt better than jacks" LOL all jack has is the most awful shot in the NBA the long 2, and he misses more than he makes. The only reason he was valuable to the Dubs was so Curry can have a breather or become a spot up shooter as Mitas suggested. And Iggy does all Jack does minus that horrendous long 2 that Jack shoots. Besides the Dubs already replaced Jack and Landry, with Marrecce and Tony Douglas, lol and if that isn't enough add Iggy to the mix. Dubs FO is feasting right now! Edited by Volt the Mean, Jul 11 2013, 08:37 AM.



Hurry My Curry	Jul 12 2013, 03:16 AM Post #15
Master Troll Posts: 3,800 Group: Members Member #7,981 Joined: July 20, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Volt the Mean Jul 11 2013, 08:36 AM Hurry My Curry Jul 11 2013, 05:39 AM No that's not true at all. Jack was way more valuable to the team than he was a detriment. All of his errors were magnified like with many other athletes like LeBron or Tony Romo. Iguodala's offense is nowhere near on par with Jarret Jack's even though his defense is much better. Iguodala is also a luxury to the warriors, because they should have there shooting guard and small forward positions locked up for the future with Klay Thompson and Harrison Barnes. They would have been better off getting a better back up point guard for Curry, because his injury problems will always be a concern. Ewwww did you just say Iggy's offense isnt better than jacks" LOL all jack has is the most awful shot in the NBA the long 2, and he misses more than he makes. The only reason he was valuable to the Dubs was so Curry can have a breather or become a spot up shooter as Mitas suggested. And Iggy does all Jack does minus that horrendous long 2 that Jack shoots. Besides the Dubs already replaced Jack and Landry, with Marrecce and Tony Douglas, lol and if that isn't enough add Iggy to the mix. Dubs FO is feasting right now! Yes Iguodala's offense is nowhere near on par with Jack's offense. Jack is a better shooter, better finisher (yeah he might not dunk, but he is great at finishing at the rim still), better free throw shooter, and not too far off in the slashing department. You just proved my point. Jack is valuable, because he can spell Curry and take over incase his ankle betrays him. What is Iguodala gonna do? Stunt Thompson and Barnes's growth plus add salary that is completely unnecessary considering his 13 points 5 rebounds and 5 assists per game are nearly attained by Jarrett Jack for half the cost. I still think keeping Jack was the best thing for the warriors to do this off season. I'll admit that Maureese Speights is a good solution to replace Landry, but Toney Douglas can't bring anything to the table that Jack can. In the playoffs, the Warriors struggled to score the ball when Thompson or Curry weren't hitting there shots. How is a pass first guy going to help them? Same thing happened in OKC. Westbrook went down, so Durant had to carry, but he couldn't do it without Harden. You need that guy off the bench that can score for you. Edit - Furthermore, Iguodala's strengths of slashing, defense is still a a luxury to the Warriors. Thompson is turning into a very good defensive player. Barnes showed a solid base for defense in his rookie season, plus Barnes is an excellent slasher himself and Thompson is working on his slashing. Our guard spots are set, we never needed Iguodala. Edit Part 2: I'm defending Jarrett Jack, but I actually do not really like him myself lol. Edited by Hurry My Curry, Jul 12 2013, 03:18 AM.
	Miles for mod


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