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| Who was stronger Mecha Frieza or Dr. gero and android 19 pre absorption | |
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| Alex D. Boss | Jun 23 2013, 04:55 PM Post #91 |
 
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Pus we have Tenshinhan being amazed at SSJ Goku's power after 3 years with Trunks. (We can assume Tien was rather amazed by Goku's SSJ power , but it would be against the AT's idea ). That would put a sick Goku above Yardrat Goku himself. I have said this multiple times , and gonna say this again: The Z fighters became just too strong compared to the Droids. No one stated them being weaker than Frieza. |
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Jun 23 2013, 05:24 PM Post #92 |
 
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Goku was already struck by the virus , before he went SSj . Even that wont be his actual Full Power . And when goku was losing power and Piccolo was worried , Tien and the others were still amazed by Goku's power and believed that he would win . That makes Sick Goku > Yardrat Goku anyway. Now Throw in the towel , please |
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| mcclot1993 | Jun 23 2013, 05:28 PM Post #93 |
 
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I agree sick ssj goku is still greater than his power from 3 years before hand. How much greater Idk |
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Jun 23 2013, 05:58 PM Post #94 |
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Who cares. Because old geezer and fatso were not what is expected AT neaded to change story and make android 16,17,18, but when that also didnt go well he created Cell.. Its mentioned in interview, and that with Vegetas qoute just shows us how Android 19,20 at first apperence were suposed to be real future androids but then he neaded to make 19,20 loose so that real future androids take over... Its more logical that android 19,20 in power shouldnt be so strong like ssj trunks 3 years before because vegeta stated it, and definitly under super saiyan goku because gero never expected that Goku can incrise that much on namek... |
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| Alex D. Boss | Jun 23 2013, 06:00 PM Post #95 |
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Its never mentioned in interview that the androids will be weaker than Frieza ,so you're argument is mute. |
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Jun 23 2013, 06:07 PM Post #96 |
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Vegeta mentioned... |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Jun 23 2013, 06:11 PM Post #97 |
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Even if sick SSj Goku is only 20% stronger than Yardrat SSj Goku, that's still enough for sick SSj to curbstomp Yardrat SSj. I'm more willing to believe that Sick SSj Goku initially was 5x Yardrat Goku, but of course he loses power over time as the illness wears on him. By the time 19 gets a hold of him, he's probably under Yardrat Goku being that he can no longer sustain SSj. Also I'd like to point out to everyone that our perception of PLs is based solely on the assumption that there's a multiplier for SSj. Whether this is correct or not makes all the difference in the world. I personally don't believe in multipliers, but it does serve a purpose of estimation for PL lists. |
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| mcclot1993 | Jun 23 2013, 06:42 PM Post #98 |
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I just feel like even the androids 19 and 20 would be below ssj trunks. |
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| + Pointer | Jun 23 2013, 07:02 PM Post #99 |
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I ve already thrown |
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| Alex D. Boss | Jun 23 2013, 09:52 PM Post #100 |
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No he didn't. Vegeta never stated that the Androids were weaker than Frieza. He did stated that the rumors weren't bad , meaning that what Trunks told about their strength , was true afterall. |
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| Zenet | Jun 23 2013, 10:07 PM Post #101 |
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Vegeta statement would mean Dr Gero was weaker than the rumours which was Androids > > Trunks |
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| * Crashbreaka | Jun 24 2013, 04:56 AM Post #102 |
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I seem to recall the rumours were comparing them to Freeza's power, so I'd assume Vegeta merely though of Freeza as trash from that point on. Therefore it is highly probable that the androids are stronger than Mecha Freeza IMO simply because of the 'unterrible rumours'. I dunno how that means the androids were weaker ^^ |
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| EMIYA | Jun 24 2013, 05:51 AM Post #103 |
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It doesn't, nothing at all says the cyborgs were weaker than Freeza but multiple statements and implications says they were. As stated before Goku was already coming under the heart virus before they fought, more than likely the readings No. 19 and No. 20 got from Goku at this point was indeed lower and/or at a level that wasn't a threat to them in some way. and Sick Goku>Yardrat Goku>>Mecha Freeza is still there. As Piccolo tells No. 20, they can explosively release their energy and pretty much you can say that happened. Goku starts out initially not as a threat, uses a burst of energy that puts him above No. 19 and fights him until the virus starts getting a head of him again. You can even see that burst of energy happen when Goku charges in to attack No. 19 at the start of the fight. More so that unlike trying to sense ki directly, the cyborgs are more than likely using numbers or data like scouter, giving them a more proper read. Really, they don't misjudge Goku's level, they misjudge the fact that Goku's actually holding more inside of him. No. 16 did the exact same thing with Cell and Vegeta. |
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Jun 24 2013, 09:23 AM Post #104 |
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Lol ofc that frieza was a trash. He never even gone full power, yet he was confident in his abbilitly to beat super saiyan goku. Trunks probably wasnt much diffrent than goku, so frieza could be threat to him if he didnt finished him instantly.... Gero never expected super saiyan form and it was too much for them, jusf like piccolo who was compered to super saiyans. Mechs frieza was confident in his abbility to beat super saiyan goku so yea that says preety much all about them... |
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| + Emmeth | Jun 24 2013, 09:37 AM Post #105 |
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Chapter: 331 (DBZ 137), P9.1 Context: challenging Freeza and Cold Trunks: “Come at me at full power right from the start. I’m not soft like Son Goku…” Freeza went to the measures of using his Death Ball. I'd say he was pretty damn close to full power. |
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