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Who was stronger Mecha Frieza or Dr. gero and android 19 pre absorption
Topic Started: Jun 21 2013, 01:28 PM (10,457 Views)
Wolf Jun 25 2013, 12:11 AM Post #241
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 I believe that Mecha Frieza was stronger then the androids. Just because he became one of them and was still Frieza.
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DEY DID DIS 2 ME Jun 25 2013, 12:14 AM Post #242
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Jun 25 2013, 12:11 AM
I believe that Mecha Frieza was stronger then the androids. Just because he became one of them and was still Frieza.
Oh Gattsu, you're such a maid-loving otaku! :w00t: How dare you!
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Wolf Jun 25 2013, 12:15 AM Post #243
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Shadow Realm >

 I'm just trying to put some logic in here brotha.
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Alex D. Boss Jun 25 2013, 05:11 PM Post #244
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Jun 24 2013, 10:36 PM
Which is kind of weird, considering that #20 would beat the same Vegeta that destroyed Post-#19.

Unless #20's power increased so much Post Yamcha's energy.
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+ Pointer Jun 25 2013, 05:13 PM Post #245
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Yardrat Goku>Cyborgs is unreasonable. Trunks made it very clear how dangerous they were and it was a reason they trained so hard.

That trunks referred to 17 and 18 cuz He only knows them ....19 and 20 was a shocking surprise to him 17 and 18 should have appeared instead of these two ******
Trunks didnt know anything about them therefore this statement of his describes future 17 and 18 .....
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* Yu Narukami Jun 25 2013, 05:37 PM Post #246
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Jun 25 2013, 05:13 PM
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Yardrat Goku>Cyborgs is unreasonable. Trunks made it very clear how dangerous they were and it was a reason they trained so hard.

That trunks referred to 17 and 18 cuz He only knows them ....19 and 20 was a shocking surprise to him 17 and 18 should have appeared instead of these two ******
Trunks didnt know anything about them therefore this statement of his describes future 17 and 18 .....
Doesn't matter. #19 and #20 obviously fit the bill, seeing as their ability to defeat Trunks was never brought into question
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Professor Freeza Jun 25 2013, 05:39 PM Post #247
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Jun 25 2013, 05:37 PM
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Jun 25 2013, 05:13 PM
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Yardrat Goku>Cyborgs is unreasonable. Trunks made it very clear how dangerous they were and it was a reason they trained so hard.

That trunks referred to 17 and 18 cuz He only knows them ....19 and 20 was a shocking surprise to him 17 and 18 should have appeared instead of these two ******
Trunks didnt know anything about them therefore this statement of his describes future 17 and 18 .....
Doesn't matter. #19 and #20 obviously fit the bill, seeing as their ability to defeat Trunks was never brought into question
I dont find any reason for this
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* Yu Narukami Jun 25 2013, 05:45 PM Post #248
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Jun 25 2013, 05:39 PM
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Jun 25 2013, 05:37 PM
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Jun 25 2013, 05:13 PM
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Yardrat Goku>Cyborgs is unreasonable. Trunks made it very clear how dangerous they were and it was a reason they trained so hard.

That trunks referred to 17 and 18 cuz He only knows them ....19 and 20 was a shocking surprise to him 17 and 18 should have appeared instead of these two ******
Trunks didnt know anything about them therefore this statement of his describes future 17 and 18 .....
Doesn't matter. #19 and #20 obviously fit the bill, seeing as their ability to defeat Trunks was never brought into question
I dont find any reason for this
''Hey, guys, Androids that I can barely escape from are coming in three years.''
''Oh, these Androids aren't the one that the kid was talking about, they're much weaker.''

^ This never happened.

Sure, Piccolo entertained the idea of them being weaker than Trunks described, but then he never contradicted Trunks' claims that they were stronger than him
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+ Pointer Jun 25 2013, 06:14 PM Post #249
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Jun 25 2013, 05:45 PM
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Jun 25 2013, 05:39 PM
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Jun 25 2013, 05:37 PM
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Jun 25 2013, 05:13 PM
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Yardrat Goku>Cyborgs is unreasonable. Trunks made it very clear how dangerous they were and it was a reason they trained so hard.

That trunks referred to 17 and 18 cuz He only knows them ....19 and 20 was a shocking surprise to him 17 and 18 should have appeared instead of these two ******
Trunks didnt know anything about them therefore this statement of his describes future 17 and 18 .....
Doesn't matter. #19 and #20 obviously fit the bill, seeing as their ability to defeat Trunks was never brought into question
I dont find any reason for this
''Hey, guys, Androids that I can barely escape from are coming in three years.''
''Oh, these Androids aren't the one that the kid was talking about, they're much weaker.''

^ This never happened.

Sure, Piccolo entertained the idea of them being weaker than Trunks described, but then he never contradicted Trunks' claims that they were stronger than him
Please explain me which scenario is the most suitable

1 Trunks said two androids will appear ....19 and 20 appeared and they r as stong as those future androids which were supposed to appear instead of them .../trunks must be a great prophet if this scenario is the correct one


2 Trunks referred to his futire 17 and 18 ...However as the future changed as he had traveled back in time and killed frieza and give goku the pills somehow a weaker android duo appeared instead of those two future ones which were trunks refered to

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SurRealistic Jun 25 2013, 07:32 PM Post #250
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 I hate to bring this back but.......Mecha Frieza was holding back when he fought Trunks. He said that in his new form he could beat Namek SSJ Goku and everybody seems to have forgotten that when Trunks turned SSJ, Gohan thought it was his dad because it was the same size Ki that Goku had on Namek.

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This may not be translated 100% correctly but Its good enough to say that Trunks was around Namek Goku (I have him a little stronger)

In the manga Frieza didnt even have the chance to power up before Trunks killed him and I dont see him increasing his power anytime before that (Frieza also takes a lot of time to power up to 100% if I remember correctly)
Also Gohan stated that Frieza wasnt at full power when him and Cold landed:

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I dont know how strong 100% Mecha Frieza is all I know is that he's sronger than Namek Goku.

ON TOPIC: I see the androids as strong as Yardrat SSJ Goku, because even though the androids were weaker than expected and Goku was sick, Tien was still impressed by SSJ Goku's power and he already saw Yardrat Goku and Trunks's power as SSJ's meaning:

SSJ Goku (sick) > Yardrat SSJ Goku (but not that mutch and it could also be weaker)

I dont think Mecha Frieza was not at Yardat SSJ Goku's level so the androids should be stronger than him IMO.

If all of this has been brought up before I am sorry I didnt read everything but there are 17 f***ing pages and its kinda hard to read it all :p
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+ Emmeth Jun 25 2013, 07:40 PM Post #251
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Jun 25 2013, 06:14 PM
1 Trunks said two androids will appear ....19 and 20 appeared and they r as stong as those future androids which were supposed to appear instead of them .../trunks must be a great prophet if this scenario is the correct one


2 Trunks referred to his futire 17 and 18 ...However as the future changed as he had traveled back in time and killed frieza and give goku the pills somehow a weaker android duo appeared instead of those two future ones which were trunks refered to
I'm not entirely sure you get what Drew is saying. The fact that none of the Z-Fighters commented that they were weaker should be a clear indicator that they could beat Trunks (@ Mecha Freeza).
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EMIYA Jun 25 2013, 07:43 PM Post #252
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"I am the bone of my sword."

 Trunks is never stated to have the same ki as Namek Goku, he said to have the same type of ki. In the translation, Herms makes it quite clear to differentiate the two. It's made clear that Trunks and Yardrat Goku well surpass Namek Goku.
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+ Kyouks Jun 25 2013, 07:50 PM Post #253
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Jun 25 2013, 06:14 PM
1 Trunks said two androids will appear ....19 and 20 appeared and they r as stong as those future androids which were supposed to appear instead of them .../trunks must be a great prophet if this scenario is the correct one


2 Trunks referred to his futire 17 and 18 ...However as the future changed as he had traveled back in time and killed frieza and give goku the pills somehow a weaker android duo appeared instead of those two future ones which were trunks refered to
Drew isn't saying that 19 and 20 are as strong as the future androids. The Z Senshi don't even know anything about the future androids other than the fact that they're stronger than Trunks, which is what Drew's getting at.
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Professor Freeza Jun 26 2013, 05:59 AM Post #254
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Drew
Jun 25 2013, 05:45 PM
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Yardrat Goku>Cyborgs is unreasonable. Trunks made it very clear how dangerous they were and it was a reason they trained so hard.

That trunks referred to 17 and 18 cuz He only knows them ....19 and 20 was a shocking surprise to him 17 and 18 should have appeared instead of these two ******
Trunks didnt know anything about them therefore this statement of his describes future 17 and 18 .....
Doesn't matter. #19 and #20 obviously fit the bill, seeing as their ability to defeat Trunks was never brought into question
I dont find any reason for this
''Hey, guys, Androids that I can barely escape from are coming in three years.''
''Oh, these Androids aren't the one that the kid was talking about, they're much weaker.''

^ This never happened.

Sure, Piccolo entertained the idea of them being weaker than Trunks described, but then he never contradicted Trunks' claims that they were stronger than him
Yes , but that should make Trunks much weaker than expected in their eyes
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+ Pointer Jun 26 2013, 06:18 AM Post #255
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Jun 25 2013, 07:50 PM
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Jun 25 2013, 06:14 PM
1 Trunks said two androids will appear ....19 and 20 appeared and they r as stong as those future androids which were supposed to appear instead of them .../trunks must be a great prophet if this scenario is the correct one


2 Trunks referred to his futire 17 and 18 ...However as the future changed as he had traveled back in time and killed frieza and give goku the pills somehow a weaker android duo appeared instead of those two future ones which were trunks refered to
Drew isn't saying that 19 and 20 are as strong as the future androids. The Z Senshi don't even know anything about the future androids other than the fact that they're stronger than Trunks, which is what Drew's getting at.
Now thats what im sayin how do you know that 19 and 20 is stronger than Trunks ...Just because he said that two androids will appear (which were supposed to be 17 and 18) ...
The only reason why you all say that 19 and 20 might be stronger than trunks is that Noone from Z warriors mentioned otherwise.....hmmmmm
Fair enough

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