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Mecha Frieza vs 100% frieza
Topic Started: Jun 20 2013, 02:26 PM (3,697 Views)
* Yu Narukami Jun 21 2013, 04:51 PM Post #61
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Izanagi!

 Freeza's legitimate fear of Super Saiyans became irrational after he suffered from trauma Post-Namek. He was crazy, not that he was really ever 'sane'.
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Divine Saiya-jin Jun 21 2013, 04:54 PM Post #62
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Brofist
Jun 21 2013, 04:47 PM
Does it really seem likely that Freeza after getting his 50% hind end whooped 12 ways to Sunday, his 100% form split in half, blasted into a planet and then taking a planetary explosion come up to the next Super Saiyan, of which freaks him quite a bit and statements from himself noted that the increase he made really wasn't all that big, would go up to Trunks and start going

"I'm not using my full power, I can take this punk on, I'll use 50% Obviously he's nowhere near the level of Goku...god I hope he isn't....back me up dad I may need some fire support here."

Freeza got annihilated by a Super Saiyan when he was repressed and was forced into defeat at the end at 100%. I see little reason for Freeza to see the next SSJ and start taking things a bit more seriously than he did before.
If anyone was going to do that it would be Freeza. He is the epitome of arrogance.
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EMIYA Jun 21 2013, 04:56 PM Post #63
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"I am the bone of my sword."

 Arrogance only goes so far when feats show that 50% Freeza and even 70% Freeza could do little to nothing to an SSJ.

Cell, who had the arrogance of Vegeta and Freeza, will still grudgingly able to admit that SSj2 Kid Gohan was stronger than him.
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Divine Saiya-jin Jun 21 2013, 05:03 PM Post #64
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Brofist
Jun 21 2013, 04:56 PM
Arrogance only goes so far when feats show that 50% Freeza and even 70% Freeza could do little to nothing to an SSJ.

Cell, who had the arrogance of Vegeta and Freeza, will still grudgingly able to admit that SSj2 Kid Gohan was stronger than him.
Yeah but by the time he realizes how strong Trunks is he's split in half.

In my opinion there's two likely scenarios with this.

1. Freeza is not at full power yet.
2. With Freeza's new mechanical parts allow him to go from suppressed to full power without reving up. (which I admit is entirely possible).
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Professor Freeza Jun 21 2013, 05:27 PM Post #65
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 I dont think Freeza will take any kind of chance after seeing another super saiyan
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+ Clearin Jun 21 2013, 05:33 PM Post #66
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 The whole "Freeza didn't have time to power up" is a weak argument imo. We know that Freeza is not above asking his opponent to wait while he powers up as he shows when he asks Goku. So considering Trunks had already given Freeza the offer to power up to full, if he still needed time to do so why wouldn't he say "Just wait while I power up then"?

Considering Freeza's phobia of super saiyans there is no reason at all to attack one when he's not at full power despite been given the chance by Trunks to power up.
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* Yu Narukami Jun 21 2013, 05:36 PM Post #67
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Izanagi!

 Unless Mecha Freeza's unbelievably weak, wouldn't any of the other characters actually mention the fact that Freeza was powering up? Also, no matter how much of him is mechanical, Freeza would still have an aura if he was using a significant amount of power. Did he have one? I forget
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DEY DID DIS 2 ME Jun 21 2013, 05:49 PM Post #68
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 Mecha Freeza is stronger than any Freeza prior to.

Future Trunks doesn't have to be that much stronger than Mecha Freeza, because:
  2. Freeza cannot sense ki, and
  3. Freeza underestimates opponents.
Freeza can be caught off guard easily because of this. Son Gohan catches him twice; Kuririn cuts off his tail; Goku is able to prepare Genki Dama; Piccolo is able to kick Freeza, and knock him back, etc.
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Professor Freeza Jun 22 2013, 05:20 AM Post #69
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Jun 21 2013, 05:49 PM
Mecha Freeza is stronger than any Freeza prior to.

Future Trunks doesn't have to be that much stronger than Mecha Freeza, because:
  2. Freeza cannot sense ki, and
  3. Freeza underestimates opponents.
Freeza can be caught off guard easily because of this. Son Gohan catches him twice; Kuririn cuts off his tail; Goku is able to prepare Genki Dama; Piccolo is able to kick Freeza, and knock him back, etc.
Even SSj Kid Trunks caught fat Buu off guard and kicked him away . It doesnt mean that he was sliced to death
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DEY DID DIS 2 ME Jun 22 2013, 05:35 AM Post #70
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Professor Freeza
Jun 22 2013, 05:20 AM
Father Nightroad
Jun 21 2013, 05:49 PM
Mecha Freeza is stronger than any Freeza prior to.

Future Trunks doesn't have to be that much stronger than Mecha Freeza, because:
  2. Freeza cannot sense ki, and
  3. Freeza underestimates opponents.
Freeza can be caught off guard easily because of this. Son Gohan catches him twice; Kuririn cuts off his tail; Goku is able to prepare Genki Dama; Piccolo is able to kick Freeza, and knock him back, etc.
Even SSj Kid Trunks caught fat Buu off guard and kicked him away . It doesnt mean that he was sliced to death
fat boo regens. also, fat boo never bothered to sense ki [refers to Freeza not sensing ki]

You seem familiar.
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mcclot1993 Jun 24 2013, 12:07 AM Post #71
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 All I was wondering is if Frieza in the anime ever went all out in the anime against trunks or he was suppressed the whole time. On Wikipedia it said that frieza was never seen at his full power in that form and said he would be a good opponent for a well trained super saiyan but trunks caught him off guard which is why he was deafeated so easily.
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EMIYA Jun 24 2013, 12:48 AM Post #72
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"I am the bone of my sword."

 I don't know how anime lines go. It's made very specific though in the manga that Trunks was well beyond Freeza's level regardless of whether or not Freeza powered up. Goku, Gohan, Piccolo, Vegeta, the Greeks, the Macedonians, Ceaser, Jesus, Alucard all express how awesome Trunks was for being to awesome sauce and instantly defeating Freeza and his father.

Goku himself can look at Trunks and again comment on the idea that not only did Trunks easily defeat Freeza, but he wasn't even being serious at the time. Trunks outright tells Freeza to come at him at full power, confident in his own ability to defeat him and then crushes Cold whose level shouldn't even be that far below Freeza himself due to statements even more easily than he did Freeza.

Whther or not Freezaed powered up or not wouldn't have made a difference. it's made very explicit that Trunks was stronger regardless.
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Sam Jun 25 2013, 06:28 PM Post #73
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 I'm of the opinion that Freeza was stuck at the power level he was at due to his mechanical limitations/parts. However, he has also been enhanced in some way and is always at full power. He even stated that he was stronger than before. I don't think he could transform to 100% simply because he was 2/3 mechanical, possibly more like 3/4, and it would be physically impossible for him to do so. Mecha is definitely more powerful than regular Freeza, even if it didn't seem that way :p
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+ Emmeth Jun 25 2013, 06:45 PM Post #74
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 I have one thing to say here:

Chapter: 330 (DBZ 136), P9.7
Yamcha: “So this guy called ‘Fr…Freeza’ has such terrible…ab…absurdly large ki…?”
Gohan: “This isn’t it…he gets much, much stronger…!”


This could cause some discussion.
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Sam Jun 25 2013, 06:48 PM Post #75
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It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash.

 Could he possibly have been referring to Cold? That's definitely an interesting passage quote. I haven't read the manga in at least a year and so I am a bit rusty, I apologize if my facts aren't always spot on. We teach each other here though, we really do :p
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