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Mecha Frieza vs 100% frieza
Topic Started: Jun 20 2013, 02:26 PM (3,700 Views)
EMIYA Jun 20 2013, 04:04 PM Post #16
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"I am the bone of my sword."

 Supressed Trunks>>Suppressed Freeza, obviously FP Trunks>>FP Freeza.

Mecha Freeza had a very small increase over his organic form and treats his father almost on the same level as him and Trunks annihilated Cold easily, going as far as to complete catch his own sword being struck down upon him. The entire fight is completely in Trunks' favor both against Freeza and Cold.

There is literally no way at all that Freeza is giving Trunks a good fight unless Trunks purposely lowers his level to Freeza's own.
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POOHEAD189 Jun 20 2013, 04:06 PM Post #17
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 Organic Freiza:
Base= 3 million
50% = 60 million
100% = 120 million

Mecha Freiza:
Base: 4 million
50%= 80 million
100% = 160 million
(imo)
I think Mecha Freiza was at 50% power when fighting Trunks.
Edited by POOHEAD189, Jun 20 2013, 04:10 PM.
Tha gaol agam ort. <3
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+ Pointer Jun 20 2013, 04:07 PM Post #18
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Supressed Trunks>>Suppressed Freeza, obviously FP Trunks>>FP Freeza.


No ...what if frieza s suppression was bigger ...Like Trunks max power =X Frieza max power =Y
Suppressed Trunks X/2 Suppressed frieza Y/4

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Zenet Jun 20 2013, 04:14 PM Post #19
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Brofist
Jun 20 2013, 04:04 PM
Supressed Trunks>>Suppressed Freeza, obviously FP Trunks>>FP Freeza.

Mecha Freeza had a very small increase over his organic form and treats his father almost on the same level as him and Trunks annihilated Cold easily, going as far as to complete catch his own sword being struck down upon him. The entire fight is completely in Trunks' favor both against Freeza and Cold.

There is literally no way at all that Freeza is giving Trunks a good fight unless Trunks purposely lowers his level to Freeza's own.

I think Freeza was using his 50% form that's why.

And because Trunks wasn't using any effort on a 50% Freeza it doesn't mean he was also suppressed it just means he wasn't trying. Anyway I know Trunks would win against a full power Freeza am not disagreeing with that.
Edited by Zenet, Jun 20 2013, 04:50 PM.
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EMIYA Jun 20 2013, 04:17 PM Post #20
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"I am the bone of my sword."

 Freeza puts his father near the same level as himself, stating that with both of them, they could defeat Goku. He remarks that he might be able to do it alone. It's evident there already that the difference between Organic Freeza, Mecha Freeza and King Cold really isn't all that large.

Trunks outright tells Freeza to fight him at full power, with full confidence in him.

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Chapter: 331 (DBZ 137), P9.1
Context: challenging Freeza and Cold
Trunks: “Come at me at full power right from the start. I’m not soft like Son Goku…”


And then there's the point that everyone remarks out easily Trunks instantly defeated Freeza. Not just fought, instantly defeated and are quite impressed with it. And then there's the fact that Cold couldn't even stop Trunks and did horrible against despite the fact that Cold couldn't be too much weaker than Mecha Freeza. Goku states that Trunks wasn't being serious.

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Chapter: 334 (DBZ 140), P13.3-5
Context: after Trunks and Goku fight
Trunks: “As expected, the rumors were true. No, you’re even greater…This was the sword that cut even Freeza…”
Goku: “You weren’t serious, after all.”


That's pretty much saying Trunks>>Freeza in all regards.

Freeza can be suppressed, but it's made quite clear that so is Trunks and it's made even more clear that Trunks has a pretty sizable advantage over Freeza overall whether or not Trunks has to increase his power or not.
Edited by EMIYA, Jun 20 2013, 04:18 PM.
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mcclot1993 Jun 20 2013, 04:20 PM Post #21
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 I just remember yamcha was blown away by the power of frieza and his father. Gohan then stated that friezas power gets much much bigger. I remember that frieza said he had an upgrade in power as well. I just was never sure if frieza used all his power on trunks as well and even if he did not how well frieza would have done against trunks.
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Zenet Jun 20 2013, 04:39 PM Post #22
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Brofist
Jun 20 2013, 04:17 PM
Freeza puts his father near the same level as himself, stating that with both of them, they could defeat Goku. He remarks that he might be able to do it alone. It's evident there already that the difference between Organic Freeza, Mecha Freeza and King Cold really isn't all that large.

Trunks outright tells Freeza to fight him at full power, with full confidence in him.

Quote:
 
Chapter: 331 (DBZ 137), P9.1
Context: challenging Freeza and Cold
Trunks: “Come at me at full power right from the start. I’m not soft like Son Goku…”


And then there's the point that everyone remarks out easily Trunks instantly defeated Freeza. Not just fought, instantly defeated and are quite impressed with it. And then there's the fact that Cold couldn't even stop Trunks and did horrible against despite the fact that Cold couldn't be too much weaker than Mecha Freeza. Goku states that Trunks wasn't being serious.

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Chapter: 334 (DBZ 140), P13.3-5
Context: after Trunks and Goku fight
Trunks: “As expected, the rumors were true. No, you’re even greater…This was the sword that cut even Freeza…”
Goku: “You weren’t serious, after all.”


That's pretty much saying Trunks>>Freeza in all regards.

Freeza can be suppressed, but it's made quite clear that so is Trunks and it's made even more clear that Trunks has a pretty sizable advantage over Freeza overall whether or not Trunks has to increase his power or not.
Statements show King Cold is around a Suppressed Mecha Freeza. Gohan statements about Suppressed Mecha Freeza being way weaker than 100% Organic Freeza, and that level of power helping against a SSJ tier opponent, as well as the Z Senshi crapping themselves at the power output of the Cold should definitely accurately place King Cold in Organic Freeza's 50-80% range.

And then we Gohan mistaking Trunks ki for being around SSJ Namek Goku. Who could also demolish King Cold.

Trunks stated to not be trying doesent mean he was suppressed in power. It just means Freeza was easy to beat so didn't put much effort.
Edited by Zenet, Jun 20 2013, 05:35 PM.
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EMIYA Jun 20 2013, 04:41 PM Post #23
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"I am the bone of my sword."

 Trunks' ki is never stated to be around Namek Goku, it's stated to be the same type of Ki as Gokus. Herms is quite clear at making this distinction in the translation.
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+ Pyrus Jun 20 2013, 05:42 PM Post #24
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 2 votes for organic Freeza? Who's high?
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* Yu Narukami Jun 20 2013, 05:44 PM Post #25
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Izanagi!
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Jun 20 2013, 05:42 PM
2 votes for organic Freeza
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Divine Saiya-jin Jun 20 2013, 07:15 PM Post #26
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 If we're talking the initial supressed Mecha Freeza then based on Gohan's quote 100% Freeza is stronger. If we're talking full power Mecha Freeza then obviously Mecha Freeza.
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bardock1990 Jun 20 2013, 09:33 PM Post #27
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 Organic fp Frieza sure LOOKS much stronger though.
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+ Pyrus Jun 20 2013, 09:43 PM Post #28
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 Looks are always deceiving.
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Zenet Jun 20 2013, 09:45 PM Post #29
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We never saw 100% Mecha Freeza though it would look strange the bulky muscles and the attachments.
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+ Pyrus Jun 20 2013, 09:47 PM Post #30
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 He cannot get to that power with his Mecha parts.
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