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FP SSJ 3 Goku vs Kid Boo
Topic Started: Jun 18 2013, 11:48 PM (1,101 Views)
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Goku masters SSJ 3 and fights Kid Boo again. Can he win?
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Considering its pretty much stated without contradiction that Goku could win...well Goku wins.
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Goku stated at FP he would destroy Kid Buu, and both are read/shown in the manga and anime respectfully, that he was fully capable of winning.
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Godstomp for Goku here, stamina was the only issue for his fight, eliminate that and boom you have Goku whooping Kid Boo
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Sure he can win if he can get a full power ki blast off, but who says that will happen. This is just a straight up fight, so you can't rely on him being able to win by ki. It's not that easy to get a maximum charged KHH off, let alone have Boo stand there and let it hit him.
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Jun 18 2013, 11:52 PM
Sure he can win if he can get a full power ki blast off, but who says that will happen. This is just a straight up fight, so you can't rely on him being able to win by ki. It's not that easy to get a maximum charged KHH off, let alone have Boo stand there and let it hit him.
Well you have to take into account that SSJ3 manipulates ki to their full extent, which gives off potent power enough for a single SSJ3 to beat a being with extreme regen (Majin Buu vs SSJ3 Goku and SSJ3 Gotenks vs Super Buu) if said user decides to end it quickly before the stamina issue occurs, and you do know that they can use ki to amp their physical attacks to do far greater damage don't you? So regardless, Goku can fight it out or can just use the a Instant True Kamehameha and win, either way Goku got this in the bag.
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Kid Boo has Instant Transmission too, so the IT KHH isn't a surefire win. We saw that Boo's literally do not take damage from physical attacks either, which was evident with Gohan vs Super Boo, Goku vs Fat Boo, and Goku vs Kid Boo. Even when Goku was at Full Power, Kid Boo took his hits like they were nothing.
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Jun 18 2013, 11:59 PM
Kid Boo has Instant Transmission too, so the IT KHH isn't a surefire win. We saw that Boo's literally do not take damage from physical attacks either, which was evident with Gohan vs Super Boo, Goku vs Fat Boo, and Goku vs Kid Boo. Even when Goku was at Full Power, Kid Boo took his hits like they were nothing.
Well you must don't remember SSJ3 Gotenks kicking Super Buu's a*** and he was, i say again, WAS f***ed up. SSJ3 Goku vs Majin Buu is a different matter however, because Goku wasn't serious thus there was no need to fight to the best of his abilities, and the same for Ultimate Gohan, which is also different and Gohan also had a bigger power advantage.
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If Goku got the opportunity, which I think he would if he had no stamina issues, he'd wipe out Boo like was stated.
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Jun 19 2013, 12:03 AM
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Jun 18 2013, 11:59 PM
Kid Boo has Instant Transmission too, so the IT KHH isn't a surefire win. We saw that Boo's literally do not take damage from physical attacks either, which was evident with Gohan vs Super Boo, Goku vs Fat Boo, and Goku vs Kid Boo. Even when Goku was at Full Power, Kid Boo took his hits like they were nothing.
Well you must don't remember SSJ3 Gotenks kicking Super Buu's a*** and he was, i say again, WAS f***ed up. SSJ3 Goku vs Majin Buu is a different matter however, because Goku wasn't serious thus there was no need to fight to the best of his abilities, and the same for Ultimate Gohan, which is also different and Gohan also had a bigger power advantage.
I'm sorry, but to say Goku wasn't serious is just oblivious.

Chapter: 509 (DBZ 315), P11.4-6
Context: as Goku prepares to fight Boo
Goku: “Alrii~~iight. I’d better go all out right from the start…! If we get done in, then the entire universe will go ‘poof’…”
Vegeta: “Let me see this ‘Super Saiyan 3’ thing with my own eyes…”
Goku: “Is that alright? You just might not get your turn…I can say this now, but the truth is that with that fat Boo, I would have been able to defeat him at the time with Super Saiyan 3…However, I wanted the young guys to manage something…For the Earth’s sake too…”

Goku states himself he must go all out, never once is this contradicted. He fights 100% the whole fight, and was serious.


Chapter: 510 (DBZ 316), P13.1-6
Vegeta: “Don’t hesitate for my sake, and finish him off! With that Super Saiyan 3, you should be able to completely wipe out Boo with your ki once you gather it with all your might…!”
Goku: “Ye…yeah…I’ve been thinking of doing that as well since awhile back, but…I haven’t gotten the chance.”
Vegeta: “Eh?”
Goku: “If I want to wipe him out, I gotta gather ki for about one minute.”
Vegeta: “One minute?!”
Goku: “Dammnit~~~If it was with the Potara, I could have done it in one blast. …..Cheh~~~I guess I went and showed off too much. But I thought things would go a little better than this…!”
Vegeta: “…S …So you weren’t thinking of me..."


Not only this, but he also implies to Vegeta that he did not want him to have a chance. Goku wanted to finish it all on his own, there and then.

I don't disagree with you guys that Goku > Boo, but where are these so called "opportunities" that you guys speak of going to come from. Without the help of Vegeta, Goku wouldn't have been able to gather his maximum ki anyways. If Goku is alone, it will be much more difficult for him to gather all if his ki, because Boo is not just going to stand there as I said before.
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Jun 18 2013, 11:59 PM
Kid Boo has Instant Transmission too, so the IT KHH isn't a surefire win. We saw that Boo's literally do not take damage from physical attacks either, which was evident with Gohan vs Super Boo, Goku vs Fat Boo, and Goku vs Kid Boo. Even when Goku was at Full Power, Kid Boo took his hits like they were nothing.
Well you must don't remember SSJ3 Gotenks kicking Super Buu's a*** and he was, i say again, WAS f***ed up. SSJ3 Goku vs Majin Buu is a different matter however, because Goku wasn't serious thus there was no need to fight to the best of his abilities, and the same for Ultimate Gohan, which is also different and Gohan also had a bigger power advantage.
I'm sorry, but to say Goku wasn't serious is just oblivious.

Chapter: 509 (DBZ 315), P11.4-6
Context: as Goku prepares to fight Boo
Goku: “Alrii~~iight. I’d better go all out right from the start…! If we get done in, then the entire universe will go ‘poof’…”
Vegeta: “Let me see this ‘Super Saiyan 3’ thing with my own eyes…”
Goku: “Is that alright? You just might not get your turn…I can say this now, but the truth is that with that fat Boo, I would have been able to defeat him at the time with Super Saiyan 3…However, I wanted the young guys to manage something…For the Earth’s sake too…”

Goku states himself he must go all out, never once is this contradicted. He fights 100% the whole fight, and was serious.


Chapter: 510 (DBZ 316), P13.1-6
Vegeta: “Don’t hesitate for my sake, and finish him off! With that Super Saiyan 3, you should be able to completely wipe out Boo with your ki once you gather it with all your might…!”
Goku: “Ye…yeah…I’ve been thinking of doing that as well since awhile back, but…I haven’t gotten the chance.”
Vegeta: “Eh?”
Goku: “If I want to wipe him out, I gotta gather ki for about one minute.”
Vegeta: “One minute?!”
Goku: “Dammnit~~~If it was with the Potara, I could have done it in one blast. …..Cheh~~~I guess I went and showed off too much. But I thought things would go a little better than this…!”
Vegeta: “…S …So you weren’t thinking of me..."


Not only this, but he also implies to Vegeta that he did not want him to have a chance. Goku wanted to finish it all on his own, there and then.

I don't disagree with you guys that Goku > Boo, but where are these so called "opportunities" that you guys speak of going to come from. Without the help of Vegeta, Goku wouldn't have been able to gather his maximum ki anyways. If Goku is alone, it will be much more difficult for him to gather all if his ki, because Boo is not just going to stand there as I said before.
You forgetting some important though, Goku says that:

Goku: “Is that alright? You just might not get your turn…I can say this now, but the truth is that with that fat Boo, I would have been able to defeat him at the time with Super Saiyan 3…However, I wanted the young guys to manage something…For the Earth’s sake too…”

When he said this and if you remember the fight clearly, Goku was fighting with his max power but he was holding back from winning. Proof is in your quote:

"However, I wanted the young guys to manage something…For the Earth’s sake too…”

young guys = Gotenks

So it pretty much stated that Kid Buu and Majin Buu are somewhat far apart in power so:

Majin Buu < / > SSJ3 Goku HB < / < Kid Buu << SSJ3 Goku AO

(FYI: HB is holding back and AO is all out, also note that I didn't say Goku wasn't at full power)

And Goku also stated that he wanted to show off with the SSJ3 power so that time he used to "show off" costed him an extreme amount of ki, so much so that he could barely and finally, hold the form.
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There's no way around this one. Goku can kill Kid Boo as a SSJ3. Trained or not.
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Ah okay, my apologies. I misunderstood and thought you meant Goku was not serious against Kid Boo. Ok I see your point, but that still doesn't counter Goku not being physically able to damage Kid Boo at 100%
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The only reason Goku let Vegeta take over is because he underestimated Boo's resilience and his Ki was dropping too quickly. If his Ki wasn't dropping, he'd find a window of opportunity to attack.
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Eh. I guess, I just don't see Boo letting his guard down easily, but whatevs.
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