Vegetunks vs Goken

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Vegetunks vs Goken
Tweet Topic Started: Jun 16 2013, 09:04 PM (1,753 Views)
+ Majin Vegeta	Jun 16 2013, 09:04 PM Post #1
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	The tittle says it they are there buu saga incarnations this is Pre Majin Vegeta fused with post rosat Trunks versus Goku buu saga fused with PRE rosat Goten,who would win?(note their both fusing with dance or Potara as well) Edited by Majin Vegeta, Jun 17 2013, 05:38 AM.
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


Sjk8	Jun 16 2013, 09:46 PM Post #2
史上最強の孫悟空 Posts: 967 Group: Member Member #8,358 Joined: September 29, 2012 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ Abridged Favourite Manga Dragon Ball - One Piece - Attack on Titan	Goku > pre Majin Vegeta ~> post Rosat Trunks > pre Rosat Goten. Vegeta would have to slightly power down in order to match Trunks, while Goku has to power down way more in order to match Goten; basically: Vegetunks = 2 post Rosat Trunksfusion boost Goken = 2 pre Rosat Gotenfusion boost Vegetunks wins this one.
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+ Majin Vegeta	Jun 16 2013, 10:01 PM Post #3
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Its about teckniques and skills as well not just power my friend
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


+ Green	Jun 16 2013, 10:08 PM Post #4
Flashy Thing! Posts: 5,436 Group: Legend Member #1,181 Joined: February 25, 2006 Gender Male Country United States What Browser do you use? Fire fox Favourite Manga Gantz	Vegeta and trunks have more combined skill than goku and goten. Vegeta and Goku are basically even too.
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Sjk8	Jun 16 2013, 10:25 PM Post #5
史上最強の孫悟空 Posts: 967 Group: Member Member #8,358 Joined: September 29, 2012 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ Abridged Favourite Manga Dragon Ball - One Piece - Attack on Titan	Vegeta8558 Jun 16 2013, 10:01 PM Its about teckniques and skills as well not just power my friend In DBZ sills don't practically matter when someone is clearly stronger than another one. And here, Vegetunks would be stronger than Goken by a considerable margin.
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Vertical	Jun 16 2013, 10:28 PM Post #6
Posts: 2,542 Group: Member Member #8,475 Joined: October 27, 2012	Vegeta8558 Jun 16 2013, 10:01 PM Its about teckniques and skills as well not just power my friend The power difference here will not be overcome by skills or techniques. Trugeta wins.
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* Crashbreaka	Jun 16 2013, 10:41 PM Post #7
Captain Oblivious Posts: 6,888 Group: Retired Staff Member #7,771 Joined: June 14, 2012 Gender Male Country New Zealand Favourite Anime Onepunch-Man, Gurren Lagann What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Seven Deadly Sins, Food Wars, Onepunch-Man	Vegetrunks would have a minute power advantage IMO, so I'd go with them. Skillwise it'd probably be even.



AA500	Jun 17 2013, 01:20 AM Post #8
Posts: 2,079 Group: Member Member #9,363 Joined: April 11, 2013 Gender Not Specified	I don't have Trunks much stronger Post ROSAT than pre, 'cause I think Gotenks got most of the gains there, his gains wouldn't be enough to make up for Goku being so much ahead of these two. Goken takes IMO



+ Majin Vegeta	Jun 17 2013, 05:06 AM Post #9
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Vertical Jun 16 2013, 10:28 PM Vegeta8558 Jun 16 2013, 10:01 PM Its about teckniques and skills as well not just power my friend The power difference here will not be overcome by skills or techniques. Trugeta wins. Trunks gains on the chamber is not that huge even Piccolo said that small gains separately will gave the fusion an incredible increase of power,and don't forget the ability of IT as well it might be some factor here
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


+ miguelnuva	Jun 17 2013, 05:16 AM Post #10
Posts: 4,068 Group: Elite Member Member #8,291 Joined: September 16, 2012 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Sailor Moon	Goken wins, he'd have SSJ3.
	Gogeta power placement


+ Majin Vegeta	Jun 17 2013, 05:18 AM Post #11
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Assuming they both have ssj3 (which makes sense since 2 Ssj boys did it)
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


Vertical	Jun 17 2013, 05:29 AM Post #12
Posts: 2,542 Group: Member Member #8,475 Joined: October 27, 2012	Vegeta8558 Jun 17 2013, 05:06 AM Vertical Jun 16 2013, 10:28 PM Vegeta8558 Jun 16 2013, 10:01 PM Its about teckniques and skills as well not just power my friend The power difference here will not be overcome by skills or techniques. Trugeta wins. Trunks gains on the chamber is not that huge even Piccolo said that small gains separately will gave the fusion an incredible increase of power,and don't forget the ability of IT as well it might be some factor here If you believe the following: - the fusion formula is fixed and simple [something like "(A + B) x 10"] - which it should be considering that the result is predictable - [Post-RoSaT] Base Gotenks > [Pre-RoSaT] SSJ Gotenks - which is implied by Piccolo - fusion SSJ transformations are identical to non-fusion SSJ transformations - which should be true because if they weren't something would have been noted ...then [Post-RoSaT] Base Trunks/Goten > [Pre-RoSaT] SSJ Trunks/Goten Huge or not [depending on your SSJ system], the gap is still there, and it's very apparent. You're effectively pitting a SSJ character against a Base character... when the SSJ character already has an advantage in Base.
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+ Majin Vegeta	Jun 17 2013, 05:32 AM Post #13
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Vertical Jun 17 2013, 05:29 AM Vegeta8558 Jun 17 2013, 05:06 AM Vertical Jun 16 2013, 10:28 PM Vegeta8558 Jun 16 2013, 10:01 PM Its about teckniques and skills as well not just power my friend The power difference here will not be overcome by skills or techniques. Trugeta wins. Trunks gains on the chamber is not that huge even Piccolo said that small gains separately will gave the fusion an incredible increase of power,and don't forget the ability of IT as well it might be some factor here If you believe the following: - the fusion formula is fixed and simple [something like "(A + B) x 10"] - which it should be considering that the result is predictable - [Post-RoSaT] Base Gotenks > [Pre-RoSaT] SSJ Gotenks - which is implied by Piccolo - fusion SSJ transformations are identical to non-fusion SSJ transformations - which should be true because if they weren't something would have been noted ...then [Post-RoSaT] Base Trunks/Goten > [Pre-RoSaT] SSJ Trunks/Goten Huge or not [depending on your SSJ system], the gap is still there, and it's very apparent. You're effectively pitting a SSJ character against a Base character... when the SSJ character already has an advantage in Base. You think that Goten and Trunks post in base are stronger than their own counterparts as ssjs pre or do I got it wrong?
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


* Crashbreaka	Jun 17 2013, 05:32 AM Post #14
Captain Oblivious Posts: 6,888 Group: Retired Staff Member #7,771 Joined: June 14, 2012 Gender Male Country New Zealand Favourite Anime Onepunch-Man, Gurren Lagann What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Seven Deadly Sins, Food Wars, Onepunch-Man	I doubt IT would be very effective against any form of Vegeta since he's seen it before and Goku didn't use it in their fight (which I assume was for a reason).



+ Majin Vegeta	Jun 17 2013, 05:37 AM Post #15
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Ok I believe we have a clear winner in fusion dance BUT would there be a difference in Potara?(no rival boost for them)ill try edit my post as well
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


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