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Base Vegeta EoZ vs SSJ 2 Gohan Post Z Sword
Topic Started: Jun 15 2013, 01:29 AM (1,287 Views)
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Jun 15 2013, 11:20 AM
Crashbreaka
Jun 15 2013, 11:17 AM
It's not a belief everyone has to subscribe to, but if you don't care about nonsensical 'haxed' power-ups I reckon it'd be the most probable.

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He knows how strong they are and how strong they could get, and here he makes point how during end of Majin boo saga every character reached his max power and couldnt be any stronger.
Where'd ya get that from? I seem to recall Goku saying he'd hit his peak during Cell Saga, yet he was even stronger come Buu Saga.
Yeah, I gotcha on that one. Man... we need to give Goku some more credit here, though.

I know the fight lasted like 5 secs, but Goku straight up said the kid lived up to his expectations. I mean.. What else amount of power could Goku be talking about? None. Unless it's something random.
That's exactly what I go with, at the end of the day it's basically all we got to work with.
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I'm fine with Oob being equal to Kid, but I think he was much stronger than Goku.

Kid Boo ~> Oob >/> Goku ~> Fat Boo ~ Base Vegeta ~ SSJ 2 Gohan Post Sword
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I'm actually cool with that too.

But on your chain, it seems that Goku's nearing Oob anyway. What's up with that?
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Well he was still at a large disadvantage. Since Oob physically hurt Goku's arm and blew him back with his aura, I see a decent power gap. I'll spell it out number wise.

Kid Boo: 200
Oob: 190
Base Goku: 165
Fat Boo: 155
Base Vegeta: 150
SSJ 2 Gohan: 150
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Crashbreaka
Jun 15 2013, 11:17 AM
It's not a belief everyone has to subscribe to, but if you don't care about nonsensical 'haxed' power-ups I reckon it'd be the most probable.

Mr. Vegetto
 
He knows how strong they are and how strong they could get, and here he makes point how during end of Majin boo saga every character reached his max power and couldnt be any stronger.
Where'd ya get that from? I seem to recall Goku saying he'd hit his peak during Cell Saga, yet he was even stronger come Buu Saga.
Simple explanation.

His goal was to hit limit in Super Saiyan form and he did, but never in base.

Maybe during Boo saga like its mentioned by AT they all were at max power and that also could mean how Goku couldnt get any stronger, but only weaker because of his age...
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Jun 15 2013, 03:32 PM
Well he was still at a large disadvantage. Since Oob physically hurt Goku's arm and blew him back with his aura, I see a decent power gap. I'll spell it out number wise.

Kid Boo: 200
Oob: 190
Base Goku: 165
Fat Boo: 155
Base Vegeta: 150
SSJ 2 Gohan: 150
Still rivaling.. Which is still close to that SSJ3 level of power.
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Not necessarily. He was rivalling until Oob got angry.
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"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!"

I think Gohan's got this.
I really don't believe that base Saiyans can close gaps to levels like SSj2 and SSj3. Considering the gaps, it doesn't seem likely to me. If they were an unnatural being like a fusion, or if there was obvious evidence of the Saiyans getting zenkai at that point, then I'd be willing to change my mind.
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