Hell fighter 17 Vs Goku SSJ3 (Baby saga)

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Hell fighter 17 Vs Goku SSJ3 (Baby saga)
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+ miguelnuva	Jun 13 2013, 12:53 PM Post #16
Posts: 4,068 Group: Elite Member Member #8,291 Joined: September 16, 2012 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Sailor Moon	Darth Pyrus Jun 13 2013, 07:59 AM miguelnuva Jun 13 2013, 06:53 AM Darth Pyrus Jun 12 2013, 09:55 PM miguelnuva Jun 12 2013, 07:08 AM Professor Gohan Jun 12 2013, 07:06 AM How did Vegeta get so strong all of a sudden? Goten and Trunks did no training so Vegeta only has to exceeded Ultimate Gohan in base which is simple since Goku is way beyond Buuhan. Vegeta was also ahead of Gohan before getting Baby's power when Gohan had the Baby boost, so normal vegeta and Gohan have a difference in power. Vegeta surpassed Super Oob, though, when Oob was far ahead of him before. Gohan surpassed Uub as well though. How do you figure? Gohan shoots a KHH at S17 and Uub is shocked to see it did nothing.
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~~Professor Gohan~~	Jun 13 2013, 02:21 PM Post #17
Posts: 0 Group: GTFO Member #6,938 Joined: November 2, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Hell, then Gohan kept the boost as well makes Vegeta's much clearer.



Kblo247	Jun 13 2013, 04:08 PM Post #18
Posts: 5,234 Group: Member Member #6,870 Joined: October 16, 2011	Yep prof, it really wouldn't change anything for them all to keep the boost. Vegeta is still 2 behind Goku on the planet, Uub and Gohan are on par with Piccolo somewhere there, and Pan can still bat around the boys, bulla, and rest of the z team



+ Pyrus	Jun 13 2013, 07:22 PM Post #19
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	miguelnuva Jun 13 2013, 12:53 PM Darth Pyrus Jun 13 2013, 07:59 AM miguelnuva Jun 13 2013, 06:53 AM Darth Pyrus Jun 12 2013, 09:55 PM miguelnuva Jun 12 2013, 07:08 AM Professor Gohan Jun 12 2013, 07:06 AM How did Vegeta get so strong all of a sudden? Goten and Trunks did no training so Vegeta only has to exceeded Ultimate Gohan in base which is simple since Goku is way beyond Buuhan. Vegeta was also ahead of Gohan before getting Baby's power when Gohan had the Baby boost, so normal vegeta and Gohan have a difference in power. Vegeta surpassed Super Oob, though, when Oob was far ahead of him before. Gohan surpassed Uub as well though. How do you figure? Gohan shoots a KHH at S17 and Uub is shocked to see it did nothing. Does that really say anything about their powers compared, though? It could just be Oob is genuinely surprised a Kamehameha of Gohan's didn't affect the villain.
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+ miguelnuva	Jun 14 2013, 01:21 AM Post #20
Posts: 4,068 Group: Elite Member Member #8,291 Joined: September 16, 2012 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Sailor Moon	When has a saiyan kept absorbed power in the past though? And Uub's reaction and the sound of his vouce nakes ne think Gohan is superior.
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~~Professor Gohan~~	Jun 14 2013, 01:36 AM Post #21
Posts: 0 Group: GTFO Member #6,938 Joined: November 2, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	When have they had to deal with Bebi in the past? This is a different case. Goten yelled big brother as well. Surly Gohan is stronger than his little bro--but does that make his reaction and response Gohan > Goten? Not for that one. Goten was clearly surprised the 'Droid took on a KHH like that. Oob could of easily been doing the same.



Kblo247	Jun 14 2013, 03:29 AM Post #22
Posts: 5,234 Group: Member Member #6,870 Joined: October 16, 2011	miguelnuva Jun 14 2013, 01:21 AM When has a saiyan kept absorbed power in the past though? And Uub's reaction and the sound of his vouce nakes ne think Gohan is superior. When has a Saiyan ever been given absorbed power in canon outside GT? They've only gave power to Goku in movies. BoG was made canon and it said Goku could retain saiya power, which means Vegeta likely would. And lets be real here the whole form a circle and only Saiyans give one Saiyan power thing is a GT rip off. They just made it god like when it was 5 over the customary 4, that was used to charge Vegeta and Goku in GT. You can easily say Goku didnt retain past power given to him in the movies Slug and Broly because Piccolo contaminated the energy with his Namekian essence Edited by Kblo247, Jun 14 2013, 03:30 AM.



~~Professor Gohan~~	Jun 14 2013, 03:50 AM Post #23
Posts: 0 Group: GTFO Member #6,938 Joined: November 2, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Kblo247 Jun 14 2013, 03:29 AM miguelnuva Jun 14 2013, 01:21 AM When has a saiyan kept absorbed power in the past though? And Uub's reaction and the sound of his vouce nakes ne think Gohan is superior. When has a Saiyan ever been given absorbed power in canon outside GT? They've only gave power to Goku in movies. BoG was made canon and it said Goku could retain saiya power, which means Vegeta likely would. And lets be real here the whole form a circle and only Saiyans give one Saiyan power thing is a GT rip off. They just made it god like when it was 5 over the customary 4, that was used to charge Vegeta and Goku in GT. You can easily say Goku didnt retain past power given to him in the movies Slug and Broly because Piccolo contaminated the energy with his Namekian essence Namekian essence?



Kblo247	Jun 14 2013, 04:00 AM Post #24
Posts: 5,234 Group: Member Member #6,870 Joined: October 16, 2011	I mean Piccolo is a Namek. He can lend Goku ki or genki as seen in the movies or show. That said Goku retained saiya power. GT is the true originator of the whole saiya power thing because that's the only time only Saiyans feeding goku or Vegeta ki was done. They followed the philophy on BoG and just said it takes 5 to make a god and 4 to super charge him as seen when they failed before Pan was used. Goku retained the saiya power after the god form dropped in the canon movie. My argument then goes, Goku and Vegeta can keep energy given to them as long as its only Saiyans. He can't keep the energy Piccolo gives him, same way that Saiyans can't simply merge like Namekians can, its a biological impossibility for them. That would allow Vegeta to keep the power up and then also explain why he never kept the Broly or Slug hax. Namekian essence, underline ki signature, whatever you want to call it whenever he hasn't kept a power up its come from Piccolo being involved so it may just taint the ability to retain Edited by Kblo247, Jun 14 2013, 04:01 AM.



SIAD	Jun 18 2013, 10:46 PM Post #25
Posts: 708 Group: Member Member #9,530 Joined: May 24, 2013	If you really Gohan (Super 17 Saga) came to outnumber Majuub, mean: General Rildo (Saga Super 17) >>> SUPER Hyper Mega Rildo. Or maybe Gohan / Trunks / Goten (against Super 17) >>>>> Gohan / Trunks / Goten (Super 17 Saga start, against the monsters of hell).



BioBroly288	Jun 18 2013, 11:01 PM Post #26
Saiyan Of Legend Posts: 602 Group: Member Member #9,511 Joined: May 18, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ	Goku Kills, Hell Fighter 17 was fighting no strugling against Vegeta so for him to fight a SSJ3 from the Baby saga when he couldnt even go up against Vegeta is murder, heck SSj Goku did so well against Super 17 (i know Goku got stronger in this saga but Baby Saga SSJ3 Goku>>>> Super 17 Saga SSj Goku> Baby Saga SSJ Goku) Baby Saga SSj Goku Would murder him, end the thread.



~~Professor Gohan~~	Jun 19 2013, 12:38 PM Post #27
Posts: 0 Group: GTFO Member #6,938 Joined: November 2, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Ha, why would I end the thread when Goku has no chance on earth to kill him except with maybe the Dragon Fist+KHH combo? Your reasoning really didn't explain how Goku would kill him. Well, that's because he can't. Not in that form. Not in that time. Hell... Not in that body.



+ Majin Vegeta	Jun 19 2013, 01:39 PM Post #28
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	BioBroly288 Jun 18 2013, 11:01 PM Goku Kills, Hell Fighter 17 was fighting no strugling against Vegeta so for him to fight a SSJ3 from the Baby saga when he couldnt even go up against Vegeta is murder, heck SSj Goku did so well against Super 17 (i know Goku got stronger in this saga but Baby Saga SSJ3 Goku>>>> Super 17 Saga SSj Goku> Baby Saga SSJ Goku) Baby Saga SSj Goku Would murder him, end the thread. You're wrong my friend lest think of it for a sec both ,Vegeta was implied to keep the power boost he got from Baby and put it on his own powers furthermore Baby Vegeta>Ssj3 Goku baby saga by far hell 17 was fighting equally with Base Vgeeta and stated to be equal with someone who's powers is above ssj3 Goku I agree with the professor here the only hope Gokunhas is his dragon fist
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


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