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Goku's Kaio-Ken [post Freeza]
Topic Started: Jun 2 2013, 06:45 PM (615 Views)
Professor Gohan
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Could there have been sometimes necessary for Goku to just use a double Kaio-Ken instead of having to power-up to FP(base) or even transform into a Super Saiyan?

Sometime after after Freeza when he never used it again. If you want, you can count GT in this as well.
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I think the SS Form replaced the kaio ken ki making him unable to use it.
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Why do you think that?
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Professor Gohan
Jun 2 2013, 06:45 PM
Could there have been sometimes necessary for Goku to just use a double Kaio-Ken instead of having to power-up to FP(base) or even transform into a Super Saiyan?

Sometime after after Freeza when he never used it again. If you want, you can count GT in this as well.
If he'd actually fought Vegeta at the Tournament like he was meant to and they stuck to the no super saiyan rule he could have used it to give him the edge. And it would have been a nice throwback to their first battle.
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Kaioken used up too mutch energy and was too risky too use, so I think it simply just got replaced by Super Saiyan and Goku didnt feel the need to use it anymore.
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Even a double Kaio-Ken when he mastered it already?
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Professor Gohan
Jun 2 2013, 06:51 PM
Why do you think that?
Because the SS Form was only x10 post freeza. Putting the Kaio ken in advantaged giving more reason to writers to use it plus Goku never used the Kaio ken when he was a SS.

Thats why I think the SS replaced the Kaio ken ki.
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Jonny Rivers

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Jun 2 2013, 07:08 PM
Even a double Kaio-Ken when he mastered it already?
There was really no real oppurtunity for him to use KKx2, the villans became too strong after Frieza.
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Right. But like 90sDBZ pointed out, using it at the tournaments would of been helpful. Since there was SSJ rules and whatnot.
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If you mean just a regular Kaio-ken 2X, most of the time opponents end up being far stronger for base or something 2x higher than base and have end up using SSJ to compensate for the difference. Another reason while I will never accept a 10x SSJ form. It's an irrational thought to completely disregard 20x KK when not only will it give Goku a 2x increase over that so called 10x SSj but we also know throughout the series that Goku is more than capable of attaining and retaining higher levels of Kaio-Ken.
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Jun 2 2013, 07:34 PM
Right. But like 90sDBZ pointed out, using it at the tournaments would of been helpful. Since there was SSJ rules and whatnot.
Yes but wouldnt using Kaioken be cheating? I dont think Goku would use the Kaioken at the tournament becouse he would want a fair fight....
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He could use it on GT against Ledgic or Riildo I think,and I don't believe Goku would have used Kaioken in the tournament like Dopeman said Goku always wants a fair fight Kaioken is a power multiplier so he would most like Lu cheating agai st the other competitors I believe :lol:
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I know it's non-canon, but Goku used Kaioken against Cooler in movie 5.

I thought that was pretty cool.
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if your talking about the anime, which im assuming you are because you mentioned GT, he does use it a few more times. as reldar said against cooler, but he also uses it while a SSJ in the other world tournament against pikkon (super kaioken) and i believe he uses it when him and pikkon go to hell to take out cell frieza and the gang (atleast it looks like he uses it)
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