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How strong Dende was ?
Topic Started: Jun 1 2013, 06:49 PM (1,482 Views)
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How strong he was ?
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I think he is weaker than an average human. He was a healer, not a fighter. At the most I think he would have a power level of 5.
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Wow , even after Guru unlock his potential ?
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Well the unlock definitely allowed him to fly faster. I'll be generous and say he might get to 10-15 lol.
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I believe he's strong I mean he's not a fighter obviously but however Gokus first choose of fusion was Dendes and later on Mr satan so I would place him at 25 or so :lol:
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I don't remember in the manga but Mr Satan was choking Dende badly.
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Jun 1 2013, 07:07 PM
I don't remember in the manga but Mr Satan was choking Dende badly.
I havent really read the manga tomso i quess were both taiking about the anime :p Probably but I have Mr satan at 28 so a difference of 8 can be a stomp,so in conclusion I have Hercule 28
Dende 20
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Jun 1 2013, 07:09 PM
Hercule 28
How exactly is someone who couldn't even knock a regular human unconcious and stated by Toriyama to be weaker than Bob Sapp meant to be almost 6x stronger than an average guy?

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I don't remember in the manga but Mr Satan was choking Dende badly.
Never happened.

As for the topic, Dende's speed was great enough to present an aura and visible wind pressure when flying at full speed, something that Goku wasn't capable of at the start of DBZ, plus, Piccolo made a comment on Dende having notable power when he created the new Dragon Balls (although likely referring to magical power, it still suggested his were above Kami's). Whilst he isn't necessarally a fighter, Gohan did find it worth asking him to participate in the Budokai. Based on all that, I could see him easily above the 500 BP range, possibly in the low thousands.
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Jun 1 2013, 07:58 PM
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Hercule 28
How exactly is someone who couldn't even knock a regular human unconcious and stated by Toriyama to be weaker than Bob Sapp meant to be almost 6x stronger than an average guy?
An average human is at 5 so Hercule basically is like 5 times and something more but that's not my point your right his power level would be a lot weaker like 18 or something?
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I don't see him having feats putting him passed BODB Goku who I think has a power of 20.


Goku: 20
Dende: 20 -15
Videl -12
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He couldn't even knock out a regular human, when a difference like Vegeta's ~20% edge over Dodoria was enough for him to basically one-shot him. Considering that and Toriyama stating Bob Sapp>Mark, I doubt Mr. Satan's battle power would be any higher than 8, and given the Vegeta VS Dodoria example, even that's pushing it. You don't need overly large gaps to tool someone, especially when you can't even KO them.
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Ok I guess the issue with Dende is that has no martial arts skills. He has the KI but not the skills which you do need.

And captain cavader, I think Toriyama picking someone like Bob Sapp as an example shows he didn't watch much fighting. Sapp is a total joke of a fighter both in MMA and kickboxing, he only looks the part. So Hercule would be much stronger than that.
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I just typed in Bob Sapp. I think he has enough muscles power to snap someone's neck including Hercules.
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The only thing he's seen to be able to do is fly. We don't even know if he can form ki blasts.
His battle power is hard to predict, but I don't think he's that weak after his potential is unlocked.

Pre unlock: 8
Post unlock: 50

His flight speed prior to the unlock is one thing that seems to throw people off. He seems more able to levitate than actually fly at high speeds.

Some people have suggested that you need a PL of at least 1000 to have an aura, which Dende has after his unlock, but Roshi is seen with one in early Dragon Ball during the foot race. Auras during flight weren't seen until the late Saiyan arc. I believe it was more of a style change for ki techniques than an actual statement about power levels.
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Jun 1 2013, 09:33 PM
And captain cavader, I think Toriyama picking someone like Bob Sapp as an example shows he didn't watch much fighting. Sapp is a total joke of a fighter both in MMA and kickboxing, he only looks the part. So Hercule would be much stronger than that.
He couldn't even knock out the gunman. Mr. Satan isn't that strong. A fair grappler by an average guy's standards, but far less impressive than a lot of real life fighters.

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Some people have suggested that you need a PL of at least 1000 to have an aura, which Dende has after his unlock, but Roshi is seen with one in early Dragon Ball during the foot race.
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