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Super 13 vs Android/cell Arc
Topic Started: May 31 2013, 11:03 AM (765 Views)
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where is his max ?.....I have a weird theory....but first I want to hear read yours
Edited by Pointer, May 31 2013, 11:04 AM.

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What if I said I have him around #16 to closing in on initial Semi Cell from doing some thinking just now?

He was able to take on three SSJ's and Pickami.
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IIRC one of the guidebooks pretty much states that other than Cell, #16 was the strongest artificial human and this also included #13. Considering his feats, it puts him between Post-Kami Piccolo and Imperfect Cell/#16, moving more to the latter here but obviously not enough to surpass.
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I thought being around #16 was about right. Initial Semi Cell may be a little too much for him.
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What is the time period on the movie?

I would assume the other androids were about equivalent to 17 + 18, but Trunks and Vegeta had difficulty with them. It seems like during the beginning of the rosat, but Goku went in too.
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Nah.. They were weaker. Even #13 himself was weaker than the twins. Goku took on one of #13's Deadly Bombers, something he couldn't take from one of the twins. Plus, when the SSJ's decided to transform, #14 and #15 were turned into parts for #13 sync with.
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Pretty much what everyone said slightly weaker than 16 or at least equal i think
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So pre rosat? Shouldn't Piccolo have been the strongest?
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well ...if movie 5 and 6 and 7 are linked together .....
lets see
Movie 5 goku is stated to be far stronger than his anime counterpart.....
it is obvious that movie 6 is linked to movie 5 ...
The confusing part in movie 6 is that how can an unmastered ssj be stronger than Piccolo post kami ...well here is a theory
Goku base was 10 during the android arc/pre hearth virus/ and his ssj 10*10=100 ..Kamiccolo was above that lets say 150
Now Movie 6 goku /as he was far stronger than his anime counterpart in movie 5 and the two movies are linked together it is possible that/ movie 6 goku is stronger than his anime self too ...lets say He is 20 in base .....so lets multiply it by *10 20*10=200
So that ll explain the power differences between kamiccolo and the untrained ssjs in movie 6 ....
Okay lets see movie 7
If it is linked too ...
In movie 7 Saiyans are also pre rosat ....but it does not mean that they power is as the same as their anime self ...../for goku and vegeta it is obvious /
Now super 13 was clearly stronger than movie 7 ssj goku .......
Lets see the Power chain

First:
Android saga
#16>full power initial cell>initial imperfect cell >#17~kamiccolo>#18>ssj vegeta>ssj goku/X/
Now Movie 6 power chain
Meta cooler post regen>ssj goku ~Vegeta ssj>/kamiccolo~#17>ssj goku X/ now In that case ssj movie 6 goku is somewhere between initial imperfect cell and full power imperfect cell

Movie 7 Power chain
SSJ goku after spirit bomb >>super 13>>ssj goku/movie 7>~#16~full power imperfect cell>ssj goku/movie 6/~Meta cooler post regen~initial imperfect cell>>>kamiccolo
So by that logic
Super 13 is certainly above #16.....I dont know the gap ...but he is above
Now Personally I place Him somewhere between Semi perfect cell and #16
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Don't try to link the movies unless they're specifically linked, such as how Movie 5 and Movie 6 are linked o how Movie 8,10,11 are linked. And even then you've got to be careful.

Like I said, #16 is actually stated to be the strongest artificial human after Cell and this had also included #13 in the mix also. So at the very most #13 is only rivaling #16.
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FP Super 13 ?

Takes down Kamiccolo , loses to 16
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May 31 2013, 11:47 AM
Don't try to link the movies unless they're specifically linked, such as how Movie 5 and Movie 6 are linked o how Movie 8,10,11 are linked. And even then you've got to be careful.

Like I said, #16 is actually stated to be the strongest artificial human after Cell and this had also included #13 in the mix also. So at the very most #13 is only rivaling #16.
so a movie 7 ssj goku who is most likely to be at least *2 times stronger than his anime counterpart still weaker than #16??
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Takes down Kamiccolo , loses to 16

Kamiccolo is trash in here
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He won't get 16 that's for sure. Since it was stated he was the strongest android, apart from Cell. I'd say that he would atleast beat Kamicollo, but not further.
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May 31 2013, 12:43 PM
He won't get 16 that's for sure. Since it was stated he was the strongest android, apart from Cell. I'd say that he would atleast beat Kamicollo, but not further.
guidebooks also stated that broly is only 2 times weaker than ssj gogeta

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May 31 2013, 12:51 PM
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May 31 2013, 12:43 PM
He won't get 16 that's for sure. Since it was stated he was the strongest android, apart from Cell. I'd say that he would atleast beat Kamicollo, but not further.
guidebooks also stated that broly is only 2 times weaker than ssj gogeta
Really that's riduculous he should be hundred times weaker than just 2x
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