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Gohan: Super Saiyan 2 VS Majin Buu; Why didn't he use it?
Topic Started: May 29 2013, 09:52 PM (8,835 Views)
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I know there a few reasons out there why Gohan never used or couldn't for some odd reason, use SSJ2 against Majin Buu.
But what do you guys think.
What was Akira's reasoning behind this.
Gohan portrayed with a fairly confident mentality, that he could transform into SSJ2, at the Tournament.
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He was a little angry at the time, due to what happened to Videl, but by that point, he wasn't angry any more, he was joking about a little after his identity had been discovered by his Classmates. He was surely more angry than he was facing Majin Buu, beating the crap out of Supreme Kai.

So: Why didn't Gohan use SSJ2 against Majin Buu?

Is the reason simply: Plot?
Edited by Raiken, May 29 2013, 09:58 PM.
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It wouldn't have made much of a difference, since Buu would have just beaten him the exact same way (though he may have been able to escape from ball at SSJ2, maybe). Overall though, his contributions may have been a bit greater, but certainly not enough to make a major difference.

As for why he didn't? It's really anyone's guess, he did it easily at the TB, but its possible that he was only able to because of Videl getting beaten up. Maybe he didn't have the same kind of anger or enragement when he got to Buu, since no one had actually gotten hurt yet.
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May 29 2013, 09:55 PM
It wouldn't have made much of a difference, since Buu would have just beaten him the exact same way (though he may have been able to escape from ball at SSJ2, maybe). Overall though, his contributions may have been a bit greater, but certainly not enough to make a major difference.

As for why he didn't? It's really anyone's guess, he did it easily at the TB, but its possible that he was only able to because of Videl getting beaten up. Maybe he didn't have the same kind of anger or enragement when he got to Buu, since no one had actually gotten hurt yet.
It would have made a difference. He wouldn't have been tossed around like a rag doll, that was nothing to Buu, like he was at MSSJ.
He would have at least been able to put up some level of a fight, that's far better than he did, but not quite as well as Majin Vegeta.

Anyway, the main thing is he didn't even manage it, he seemed to try, but couldn't for some reason. And like I explained, it made no sense.
Was it simply plot, so Vegeta could take the spotlight? I mean would have took the spotlight after Gohan anyway. But it wouldn't have been so impressive beating up Buu a little like he did, if Gohan managed something similar before him.
Having Gohan getting owned, and then Vegeta putting up a decent fight makes him seem more epic, so to speak.
Edited by Raiken, May 29 2013, 10:03 PM.
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It is either just that Toriyama forgot to give him SSJ 2 (lol), or he couldn't access it for reasons we will never know. The excuse about Videl being beaten up, causing Gohan to become mad isn't really valid. Gohan was already in relief that Videl made a full recovery and should have out that behind him. Honestly I think it is because Gohan didn't have the motivation to become a SSJ 2, and it seemed like he couldn't use it on command.
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Yeah, a the best reason was that AT forgot.

But again, wouldn't make a lot difference as Buu would again beat him up, if Majin Vegeta couldn't handle Buu, then how would Gohan would?

Also, AT wanted to make Goku vs Vegeta, special that's what I think.
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Now why wouldn't he be using SSjin 2? Obviously, he was using SSjin 2 against Majin Boo.
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Actually his SSJ 2 would make a huge difference. Buu had not powered up yet, and Gohan would have been able to fight him well if he stayed that way.
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Idk why he didnt. Wouldve changed his odds a lot if he did. Then maybe a Super duper KHH!
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SSj2 would if made a difference for Gohan against Boo since Boo hadn't powered up yet.

I thought he was a SSj2 against Boo. No? I'll have to go check again.

I think it's the lack of motivation that allows him to not be able to transform if that's the case. He's only transformed twice into the form. That could be a reason as well. Since Goku and Vegeta achieved and trained the form for years plus.
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Gohan couldn't do it because of fear.

He literary goes from, If I go SSJ2 this will be hard fight but I can win to when Buu powers up.

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The only way I can possibly explain this other than a simple oversight is that Gohan lost a ton of energy to Yamu and Spopovich. I believe Kibito stated he couldn't restore Gohan to full power and perhaps he was too fatigued to transform to Super Saiyan 2. It could also contribute to Vegeta's increase in "he's weak" comments post-Tournament, since Vegeta wasn't aware Kibito couldn't restore him to full power. This is just conjecture off of one statement made by Kibito, however.
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According to Goku if Gohan managed to utilized his SSJ2 like he did against Cell, no one could stop him.
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May 29 2013, 10:01 PM
It would have made a difference. He wouldn't have been tossed around like a rag doll, that was nothing to Buu, like he was at MSSJ.
He would have at least been able to put up some level of a fight, that's far better than he did, but not quite as well as Majin Vegeta.
I'm not convinced; he thought he could manage something against initial Fat Buu if he could access his full power, but once Buu mortally wounded Dabura, Gohan was like :o , which to me says that Buu's strength at that point was far above Gohan's current SSJ2 strength, and well above his Cell Games strength as well; if he had used it, maybe he could have pushed Buu a little farther with that kick, and maybe have come back from Buu's ki ball, but Buu was use enough of his power to beat him easily, he probably would have powered up even further, meaning that Vegeta would never have stood a chance.
Edited by IllogicalGlory, May 30 2013, 02:18 AM.
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Not necessarily. Had Gohan become a SSJ 2 when he shot the Kamehameha at Buu's ball, he may have had a good fight with him. He was confident to beat Buu as an SSJ, so giving him SSJ 2 would let him kick initial Buu's a**.
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May 30 2013, 02:34 AM
He was confident to beat Buu as an SSJ
No he wasn't.
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