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May 29 2013, 05:32 AM Post #16 |
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^ Vegeta's distraction was the most important aspect of the beam struggle's result Goku capitalized on Cell Distraction by Vegeta and then Gohan's final rage boost completed the job |
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| Super Gohan | May 29 2013, 05:42 AM Post #17 |
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Goku and Gohan wouldn't have noticed Vegeta at all with the current circumstances, especially Goku, who was communicating from the afterlife through telepathy. From every guidebook I've seen, it never credits Vegeta as playing a factor in the battle's result. Edited by Super Gohan, May 29 2013, 05:42 AM.
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May 29 2013, 06:04 AM Post #18 |
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Thats why people decide to make their own theories , which are somewhat more accurate than the guidebooks When Cell decided to finish the beam struggle , it was clear he was going for that final push that would obliterate Gohan and the rest . Both Goku and Gohan surely noticed that Vegeta's blast distracted SPC and stopped him from giving the Final Push . As i said , Goku Capitalized on the distraction and said "NOW !!!" . Gohan's Rage Boost , which i think was building up at that point , came out and he overpowered SPC's Solar KHH . U can Go ahead and be skeptical and say it was all Goku and Gohan and Vegeta didnt do s*** . But if Vegeta didnt distract Cell , Gohan would have lost |
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| + Ryebrid | May 29 2013, 06:28 AM Post #19 |
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Gohan and Goku show no recognition of Vegeta, even after the struggle. In fact it's only Piccolo who bared witness to his actions, and after asks him if he needs help. Out of Honor, Piccolo didn't tell the others of Vegeta's action for the sake of his pride. Only the anime presents the idea that Goku (with Gohan following) noticed Vegeta's attack by stating "NOWS YOUR CHANCE!" as opposed to "NOW" from the manga. The whole situation happens a lot faster in the manga. Edited by Ryebrid, May 29 2013, 06:29 AM.
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May 29 2013, 06:31 AM Post #20 |
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If Goku and Gohan Notices that Cell is distracted , they will also notice the reason of the distraction U cant disprove my claim |
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| Raiken | May 29 2013, 08:13 AM Post #21 |
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Without a doubt. 50% SSJ2 Kid Gohan wasn't that much weaker than Super Perfect Cell.
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May 29 2013, 09:07 AM Post #22 |
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For FP SPC to rivall FP SSJ2 Kid gohan in power [ill take 1.1x ] , 50% Gohan wont stand a chance in areal fight |
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| + Ryebrid | May 29 2013, 10:20 AM Post #23 |
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You just completely ignored what i just said. Goku and Gohan make no recognition of Vegeta during the struggle or after the struggle. Piccolo stays behind just after the others take off and stares at Vegeta giving us a clear indication that he's witnessed what has just happened and offers him help. If Gohan would have acknowledged Vegeta he would have stated so afterwards and probably want to thank him. The fact of the matter is everyone is oblivious to Vegeta's efforts except Piccolo, and it remains that way. You won't find a shred of evidence to support your claim unless you bring conjecture to the table, which holds no weight vs actual evidence which disproves you completely. |
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May 29 2013, 10:42 AM Post #24 |
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well , maybe Gohan and Goku didnt notice who distracted cell , but they will surely notice that Cell was distracted even if the situation happened a lot faster in the manga and they didnt realize that vegeta distracted cell , it doesnt change the fact that his distraction was the deciding factor of the outcome |
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| + Ryebrid | May 29 2013, 11:25 AM Post #25 |
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How can you prove that they noticed he was distracted? I'm not disagreeing with that, from my interpretation Vegeta was also the deciding factor. |
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May 29 2013, 12:05 PM Post #26 |
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I believe Goku saw that Cell was distracted somehow [he should have seen vegeta if he looked away from the fight <_<] and then yelled at Gohan , which triggered Gohan's Rage boost for the final Push |
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| Super Gohan | May 29 2013, 02:15 PM Post #27 |
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Cell established from the start that he was done playing around and spent ample time charging up the Kamehameha, he wasn’t holding anything back. There is no “final push”, that’s already him at full force. Cell acknowledges the end at that point since the beam was about to consume Gohan right then. Had Gohan not let loose at that precise moment he would have died. Goku indicates how it was now or never, as the struggle had reached its breaking point; Gohan no longer had the time to hold back. Since Goku was communicating from the afterlife, he couldn’t have noticed Vegeta visually nor would his power be strong enough to be readily sensed from that far. For Gohan, there was a gigantic beam of death just a few feet away from him, all his attention would naturally be preoccupied with that. |
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May 29 2013, 02:20 PM Post #28 |
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Cell said something of the Sort of "Farewell" It means he was ready for the final push |
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| Super Gohan | May 29 2013, 02:30 PM Post #29 |
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And he also says "Die!!!!!" when he first fires it. |
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May 29 2013, 02:56 PM Post #30 |
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then he said "Im going to finish now" |
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