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How much stronger is perfect cell than frieza at 100%
Topic Started: May 26 2013, 02:00 PM (9,545 Views)
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May 31 2013, 03:01 PM
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Well , if Base Goku and Base Vegeta can beat someone like Good Buu in base , who was stronger than their SSj2 selves in the buu saga , i dont see any wrong in a quadrillion increase

Where the frag did you get them beating Fat Boo in base? They've never been shown to do this, nor claim to have the ability to. And something you forgot is that Fat Boo lost power after his split from Wrath Boo. He was over 50% weaker than his original appearance.
Eoz base Goku = Eoz base vegeta > Good Buu > SSj2 Goku [Buu saga] = SSj2 Vegeta [Buu saga]

Base Goku was not even worried about Good buu

as for ur question "from where did i get it" ?

go ask CC and Pyrus . they will explain it to u
huh No I know how can we reach tha
Pan >>>>>>SPC xD

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if pan is stronger than Post rosat SSj Kids , it still doesnt help
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Well , if Base Goku and Base Vegeta can beat someone like Good Buu in base , who was stronger than their SSj2 selves in the buu saga , i dont see any wrong in a quadrillion increase

Where the frag did you get them beating Fat Boo in base? They've never been shown to do this, nor claim to have the ability to. And something you forgot is that Fat Boo lost power after his split from Wrath Boo. He was over 50% weaker than his original appearance.
Eoz base Goku = Eoz base vegeta > Good Buu > SSj2 Goku [Buu saga] = SSj2 Vegeta [Buu saga]

Base Goku was not even worried about Good buu
Your premise is purely speculative.
Goku doesn't mention anything about what would happen if him and Mr. Boo were to fight. This of course is simply, because it never came up. Boo at that time simply didn't pertain to his situation, so why would he even make a comment about what his condition was if they were to fight?
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May 31 2013, 03:06 PM
Keep joking around ...

if pan is stronger than Post rosat SSj Kids , it still doesnt help
you guys said this about a month ago ....
Personally I have her over 9000 at max (:
Btw ON TOPIC
by ur logic FP cell is 1000 times stronger than frieza at least
My logic it is at least 10
..Thats all

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May 31 2013, 03:08 PM
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May 31 2013, 03:06 PM
Keep joking around ...

if pan is stronger than Post rosat SSj Kids , it still doesnt help
you guys said this about a month ago ....
Personally I have her over 9000 at max (:
Btw ON TOPIC
by ur logic FP cell is 1000 times stronger than frieza at least
My logic it is at least 10
..Thats all
if it was 10x , how did moori and the other namekians felt Perfect cell's power from namek while master Roshi and others couldnt feel 100% freeza and SSj Goku's power from earth ?
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Keep joking around ...

if pan is stronger than Post rosat SSj Kids , it still doesnt help
you guys said this about a month ago ....
Personally I have her over 9000 at max (:
Btw ON TOPIC
by ur logic FP cell is 1000 times stronger than frieza at least
My logic it is at least 10
..Thats all
if it was 10x , how did moori and the other namekians felt Perfect cell's power from namek while master Roshi and others couldnt feel 100% freeza and SSj Goku's power from earth ?
hmm it does not prove anything

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May 31 2013, 03:08 PM
Personally I have her over 9000 at max (:
Which blatantly contradicts each and every thing that's been shown about Pan regarding her power.
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Keep joking around ...

if pan is stronger than Post rosat SSj Kids , it still doesnt help
you guys said this about a month ago ....
Personally I have her over 9000 at max (:
Btw ON TOPIC
by ur logic FP cell is 1000 times stronger than frieza at least
My logic it is at least 10
..Thats all
if it was 10x , how did moori and the other namekians felt Perfect cell's power from namek while master Roshi and others couldnt feel 100% freeza and SSj Goku's power from earth ?
hmm it does not prove anything
it proves that Cell's power is so great that it can be felt from the other side of the universe

Freeza's power , on the other hand , pale ; almost non-existant as compared Perfect Cell's power
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May 31 2013, 03:06 PM
Keep joking around ...

if pan is stronger than Post rosat SSj Kids , it still doesnt help
you guys said this about a month ago ....
Personally I have her over 9000 at max (:
Btw ON TOPIC
by ur logic FP cell is 1000 times stronger than frieza at least
My logic it is at least 10
..Thats all
if it was 10x , how did moori and the other namekians felt Perfect cell's power from namek while master Roshi and others couldnt feel 100% freeza and SSj Goku's power from earth ?
hmm it does not prove anything
it proves that Cell's power is so great that it can be felt from the other side of the universe

Freeza's power , on the other hand , pale ; almost non-existant as compared Perfect Cell's power
and what if even a 10 times stonger energy can be felt from Namek?
Prove that It can not

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Which blatantly contradicts each and every thing that's been shown about Pan regarding her power.

Come one Prove that weakling is stronger than SPC comeon ....she doesnt even have ssj ... <_<
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The decreased multiplier explains why Goku SS gains was so small before Androids arrival.
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Hmm Okay ...but dont ever do it again okay :rofl:

btw IMO ....This thread has been discussed I have written what I wanted to ...I really dunno why we keep doin this
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I agree with Abyss on this one. Why would you put sutch large power gaps between the character's, they're already overpowered IMO.
I dont use a x10 power gap, I use x40, but I agree with the point that gaps between the main villans shouldnt be that big.
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May 31 2013, 07:40 AM
ithink having *5000 and more as a gap is ridiculous
Vegeta could stomp dodoria with a 1.2 gap ..
Furthermore if cell is more than *5000 times stronger than frieza that would mean that MSSJ gohan is also *3500 times stronger than frieza ..
hmmm Dont forget that frieza was somewhere *10 times stronger than Nail ....and he beat the crap outta him
In my opinion Cell's max is *10times stonger than frieza's ....
REASON:it is not necessary to create such a big gaps,being 10 times stronger means simple roflstomp....
It doesn't matter whether or not 10x or 5x or 2x is enough to 'roflstomp' an opponent. The difference between Cell and Freeza isn't determined by how well Cell can stomp Freeza, because then I could just say there's a 1.2x difference between them both. The difference between them is determined by the differences between everyone above Freeza and below Cell.
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May 31 2013, 02:45 PM
I am not sayin that we have to use 1.001 gaps ..for stomps
But look this ..
BoZ goku ~1000
EoZ goku 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Now tell me if it is not weird
Firstly, no one's going to end up with such a figure. You're blowing it out of proportion in order to make it look more ridiculous than it is. Secondly, why does it matter if you find it weird? Say you work with the gaps implied and made a list, and you end up gauging Cell to be a few hundred times stronger than Freeza. So what? At least your result is more reliable than the guesses that you're pulling out of thin air right now.

Just to spell things out about the whole 'big gap' thing, keeping things as small as I can (if you have the patience to read it all):

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Recoome and Vegete gap is smaller than that same for Android 18. Dodoria was wiped out by one blast.

Goku and Cell were near equal. The gap is very tiny

Dr Gero is around Future Trunks only. Remember Vegeta and Piccolo saying they were weaker than suspected.
Trunks later says he was cable of managing soemthing with one of the Future Androids one on one. The Future Androids are around Yadrat Goku or even less.

Just to wrap things up quicker.

10% Dominating
15% One hit KO
20% Tanking

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May 31 2013, 06:32 PM
Come one Prove that weakling is stronger than SPC comeon ....she doesnt even have ssj ... <_<
-She knocked down Rilld, someone stronger than Boo, with Trunks even noting that she was possibly stronger than him.
-She recieved no damage from SSJ Goten Baby, despite not fighting back at all.
-Her Kamehameha almost defeated Liu Xing Long, who was able to compete with Base Goku, who at the time was far stronger than his Baby Arc self, who was already above Gohan Boo.
-She mocked Qi Xing Long's speed, despite him being strong enough to withstand attacks from SS4 Goku, and being absorbed by him allowed Qi to get to a level where he could thrash SS4 Goku once Goku had lost Shouki and Yuuki.
-Toriyama apparently didn't know how to design a female SSJ, plus, Toei seemed to prefer Base Saiyans (Goku fought in base for far more than twice the time he used SSJ forms other than SS4).

Oh yes, someone with a lot to place them well over the majority of DBZ characters, and fully above any of them by the time of the Evil Dragon Arc wouldn't measure up to much more than a 9,000 BP. -_-;
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